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Re: [AUCTeX] ConTeXt MkIV Support

From: Tobias Berndt
Subject: Re: [AUCTeX] ConTeXt MkIV Support
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2016 12:27:07 +0000

Hello Joost,

On M

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on, Sep 05 2016, Tobias Berndt wrote:
>> \startblabla
>> \startitem First \stopitem
>> \startitem Second \stopitem
>> \startitem Third \stopitem
>> \stopblabla
>>I'm sorry, but that's just horrible
> ... yes, it certainly is! But, you will use these all closing tags
> only if you want to have perfect XML output. In case, you just want to
> have perfect PDFs and standard (X)HTML, you would use simply:
>> \startblabla
>> \item First
>> \item Second
>> \item Third
>> \stopblabla

Then what's the difference between "perfect XML" and "standard (X)HTML"?
Isn't proper XHTML "perfect" enough?

And still, isn't the fact that a new \item appears enough reason to assume that 
the previous \item should be closed off?

=> enough for TeX; obviously not for XML. After xml export is switched on, 
automatically an export folder will be created while compiling. The folder 
contains several files, e.g. a bla-raw.xml and bla-div.xhtm, bla-tag.xhtml (two 
XHTMLs, structured in different ways). Compare XML and XHTML and you'll see 
differences. Using a structured TeX file (startitem/stopitem &c.pp.) and you'll 
see even more differences. But I am not an expert in web formats. For XML uses, 
ConTeXt user group recommend these structured ways of coding, and I use it for 
XML export. Just for PDFs, I am using the simple code (just \item and so 
on)---that's it. Hence ...

But to require it everywhere?

=> noooo, again: It is NOT required anywhere! It is not even required  for XML 
exports, but just recommended. It depends on complexity of your code: For 
simple text design it won't be necessary probably; for more complex text 
designs maybe it will be better to use it to get better (more similar) XML 
counterparts to the resulting PDFs ... I don't know. If you're interested (at 
least it seems so), just find it out, since ConTeXt is part of TeXlive or has a 
small, powerful and most current standalone version at Maybe 
you'll like it ...? ;)

Anyway, this discussion is veering off-topic...
=> Yes, a bit.


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