Re: [AUCTeX] ConTeXt MkIV Support

[Tobias Berndt]

... this snippet thing works fine :)

There is no dependable and/or accurate user documentation (either free or for 
sale),
=> True. But---with some patience---you'll find all relevant stuff at 
contextgarde.net (and don't forget: ConTeXt is a system Hans programmed for 
PRAGMA uses only, at first. He was nice enough and made it public; not in mind 
to do a lot of effort to promote his system)

 it changes on the fly (and it's monolithic without much of a separation 
between core and modules),
 => ...? and, can't see the disadvantages?

 there is no document stability.
=> simply not true (Hans could close PRAGMA if it would true)

You cannot sensibly use it without being a member of the Context mailing list.
=> Not true (I am not a member and use it even for my work)

  If you want to do serious work with it, you better have Hans on short-dial 
(or better, he'll have you on short-dial).
=> global truth: it is probably always better to have a connection to such 
persons

I can use LaTeX packages written 20 years ago, and documents from that time 
compile.  That's why talking about centuries makes more sense with LaTeX than 
with Context.
=> you could also use a horse-drawn carriage for being mobile without any 
problems, well documented in old books ... but for 21. century transportation 
purposes you would an undocumented automobile surly give a try ;)

The Context universe is Hans-centric to a degree that the TeX universe never 
was around Don or the LaTeX universe around Leslie.
=> there are others also very active: Wolfgang, Taco &c.

Don and Leslie have moved on.  What would happen to Context if Hans did the 
same?
=> Nevertheless a good question.


ALOHA, tobber



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Von: David Kastrup [mailto:address@hidden
Gesendet: Montag, 5. September 2016 11:24
An: Tobias Berndt <address@hidden>
Cc: Mosè Giordano <address@hidden>; auctex <address@hidden>
Betreff: Re: [AUCTeX] ConTeXt MkIV Support

Tobias Berndt <address@hidden> writes:

> It's a petty and I have no idea why TeX users not realize that ConTeXt
> MkIV is something like the TeX of the 21. century (even Donald Knuth
> recommends it :)!

It's rather the TeX of the 202nd decade instead of the 21st century.

> It is modern, more elegant and logical in writing code and supports
> real XML en passant. We have changed from XeTeX to ConTeXt because of
> just that:

There is no dependable and/or accurate user documentation (either free or for 
sale), it changes on the fly (and it's monolithic without much of a separation 
between core and modules), there is no document stability.
You cannot sensibly use it without being a member of the Context mailing list.  
If you want to do serious work with it, you better have Hans on short-dial (or 
better, he'll have you on short-dial).

I can use LaTeX packages written 20 years ago, and documents from that time 
compile.  That's why talking about centuries makes more sense with LaTeX than 
with Context.

The Context universe is Hans-centric to a degree that the TeX universe never 
was around Don or the LaTeX universe around Leslie.

Don and Leslie have moved on.  What would happen to Context if Hans did the 
same?

--
David Kastrup