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 <h2>Philosophy of the GNU Project</h2>
 
 <p>Our development of the GNU free software operating system is motivated
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 <p>Hot off the presses, here are the latest published articles on free
 software and the GNU project.</p>
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+  <li><a href="/philosophy/google-engineering-talk.html">GNU &amp; The Free
+      Software Foundation - Engineering Tech Talk at Google</a></li>
   <li><a
     
href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/blog/2010/apr/06/digital-economy-bill-richard-stallman";>Digital
     economy bill: One clown giveth and the other clown taketh
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     Exceptions to the GNU GPL</a></li>
   <li><a href="/philosophy/lest-codeplex-perplex.html">Lest CodePlex
     perplex</a></li>
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-    Software Patents</a></li>
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     interview</a> with Timothy R. Butler on &ldquo;The state of
     GNU/Linux&rdquo;, 31 March 2005.</li>
 
+  <li><a href="/philosophy/google-engineering-talk.html">GNU &amp; The Free
+     Software Foundation - Engineering Tech Talk at Google, 2004</a></li>
+
   <li><a href="/philosophy/nit-india.html">Transcript of a speech</a>
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      Richard M. Stallman</a> at National Institute of Technology,
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+<title>GNU &amp; The Free Software Foundation (Engineering Tech Talk at 
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+
+<!--#include virtual="/server/banner.html" -->
+   
+<h2>GNU &amp; The Free Software Foundation<br />
+Engineering Tech Talk at Google
+</h2>
+
+<p><strong>Richard Stallman<br />
+June 11, 2004
+</strong></p>
+
+<h3>Table of Contents</h3>
+<p>1. Introduction     2<br />
+2. How it started      2<br />
+3. GNU operating system        3<br />
+4. GNU Emacs   5<br />
+5. Expensive habits    5<br />
+6. Definition of free software 6<br />
+7. Freedom 2   moral dilemma   7<br />
+8. Freedom 2   spirit of good will     7<br />
+9. Freedom 0   to run a program, Freedom 1   to modify it      8<br />
+10. DRM, backdoors, bugs       8<br />
+11. Freedom 3   having no master       9<br />
+12. Copyleft   forbidding is forbidden 10<br />
+13. General Public License     11<br />
+14. Making money off free software     12<br />
+15. Why write free software    13<br />
+16. Linux kernel       14<br />
+17. GNU vs. Linux confusion problem   freedom  15<br />
+18. Enemies of free software   16<br />
+19. Treacherous computing      17<br />
+20. Help GNU   18<br />
+21. Saint Ignucius     18<br />
+22. About anonymity, credit cards, cell phones 19<br />
+23. Free formats, copyright, Microsoft 20<br />
+24. Dangers of webmail   loss of freedom       20<br />
+25. Copyright   art vs. software       21<br />
+26. Malicious free software    22<br />
+27. Patented file formats      22<br />
+28. Games as free software     22<br />
+29. GPL freedoms for cars, saving seeds        23<br />
+30. No software is better than non-free software       23<br />
+31. Portability of free software       24<br />
+32. Is some free software obfuscated on purpose?       24<br />
+33. Proprietary   keeping an edge      25<br />
+34. Forbidding is forbidden   how is this freedom?     25<br />
+35. Can Google help free software      25<br />
+36. Free software on windows, good or bad      26<br />
+37. SCO's suit 26<br />
+38. Stallman's problem typing  27<br />
+39. Open source, good or bad   Pat-riot Act.   27<br />
+40. The end    27
+</p>
+
+<h3>1. Introduction</h3>
+
+<p><b>ED:</b> Well, thank you everybody for making it. I'm Ed Falk and this 
man needs very little introduction; if you don't know what the letters RMS 
stand for, you probably don't belong in this room.</p>
+
+<p>Richard was the founder of the Free Software Foundation, in 1984 I believe 
it was, and as such could be considered the father of free software and, of 
course, Google's infrastructure is based on free software. So we owe the free 
software movement quite a great deal of thanks. [And my mic is dying on this 
microphone so I won't talk too long.] This is Richard Stallman and we thank him 
for being here on short notice and we thank our mutual friend Lile Elam who 
arranged all of this and I think with no further ado, I give you Richard!</p>
+
+<p>[Richard bows]</p>
+
+<h3>2. How it started</h3>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Please raise your hands if you cannot hear me. [Laughter] 
Yes, somebody raised his hand.</p>
+
+<p>So, the topic of my speech is free software. I didn't begin free software; 
there was free software going back to the early days of computing. As soon as 
there were a couple of computers of the same model, people could try sharing 
software. And they did.</p>
+
+<p>{This is not... This has a problem. How do we stop the feedback? Can 
someone do anything? I'm willing to get some feedback, but only from you, not 
from the PA system.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> [unintelligible]</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Well, that doesn't matter; I'm not an advocate of open 
source and never was and never will be.}</p>
+
+<p>So free software existed before I started programming and I had the good 
fortune, in the 1970s, of being part of a community of programmers who shared 
software. So I learned about free software as a way of life, by living it. And 
I came to appreciate what it meant to be free to share with people, not divided 
from the rest of the world by attitudes of secrecy and hostility.</p>
+
+<p>But that community died in the early '80s and I found myself confronted by 
the prospect of spending the rest of my life in a world of proprietary 
software. And, worst of all, confronted by the prospect of signing a 
non-disclosure agreement {which I}. And I had concluded that it is unethical to 
sign a non-disclosure agreement for generally useful technical information, 
such as software. To promise not to share with one's fellows is a violation of 
human solidarity. So when I saw that the machine downstairs was asking me to 
sign an NDA, I just said, "I can't sign an NDA." Well, fortunately, there was 
an option; they let me come in here and speak without signing it, otherwise you 
would have had to go outside to listen. [Laughter]</p>
+
+<p>(They asked a couple of other interesting questions; they asked about 
company, so I said I'm available tonight. [Looking at name tag][Laughter] And 
they asked for my host, so I put down fencepost.gnu.org. But that's just the 
hacker spirit.)</p>
+
+<p>So I found myself in a situation where the only way you could get a modern 
computer and start to use it was to sign a non-disclosure agreement for some 
proprietary operating system. Because all the operating systems for modern 
computers in 1983 were proprietary, and there was no lawful way to get a copy 
of those operating systems without signing a non-disclosure agreement, which 
was unethical. So I decided to try to do something about it, to try to change 
that situation. And the only way I could think of to change it was to write 
another operating system, and then say as the author "this system is free; you 
can have it without a non-disclosure agreement and you're welcome to 
redistribute it to other people. You're welcome to study how it works. You're 
welcome to change it." So, instead of being divided and helpless, the users of 
this system would live in freedom. Ordinary proprietary software is part of a 
scheme where users are deliberately kept divided and helpless. The program 
comes with a license that says you're forbidden to share it, and in most cases 
you can't get the source code, so you can't study it or change it. It may even 
have malicious features and you can't tell. With free software, we respect the 
user's freedom, and that's the whole point. The reason for the free software 
movement is so that the people of cyberspace can have freedom, so that there is 
a way to live in freedom and still use a computer, to avoid being kept divided 
and helpless.</p>
+
+<h3>3. GNU operating system</h3>
+
+<p>You can't use a computer without an operating system, so a free software 
operating system was absolutely essential. And in 1983 I announced my plan to 
develop one: an operating system called GNU.</p>
+
+<p>I had decided to make the system UNIX-like so that it would be portable. 
The operating system that we had used for many years at the Artificial 
Intelligence Lab was the Incompatible Timesharing System, or ITS. It had been 
written in assembler language for the PDP-10, so when Digital discontinued the 
PDP-10, our many years of work turned into dust and blew away. I didn't want to 
write another system and have the same thing happen, so I decided this system 
had better be portable. But there was only one successful portable operating 
system I knew of, and that was UNIX. So I decided to follow the design of UNIX, 
figuring that way I'd have a good chance of succeeding in making a system that 
was useful and portable. And then I decided to make the system 
upward-compatible with the interfaces of UNIX, and the reason for this was so 
that users could switch to it without an incompatible change.</p>
+
+<p>I realized that I could take the best ideas from the various systems I had 
helped develop or use and add my pet ideas and make my dream operating system. 
But this would have been incompatible, and the users would mostly have rejected 
it, saying "it would be too much work to switch, so we're just not going to." 
So, by making the system upward-compatible with UNIX, I could spare the users 
that obstacle and make more of a chance that users would actually use the 
system.</p>
+
+<p>If the users had rejected it, I would have had a perfect excuse. I could 
have said "I offered them freedom and they rejected it; it's their fault."  But 
I wanted to make more than just an excuse. I wanted to build a community where 
people would actually live in freedom, which meant I had to develop a system 
people would actually use. So I decided to make the system upward-compatible 
with UNIX.</p>
+
+<p>Now, UNIX consists of many components that communicate through interfaces 
that are more or less documented. And the users use those interfaces. So to be 
compatible with UNIX required using the same interfaces, which meant that the 
initial design decisions were already made, except one: what range of target 
machines to support. UNIX had been designed to support 16-bit machines, which 
was a lot of extra work, because programs had to be kept small; so I decided to 
save that extra work by not supporting anything less than a 32-bit machine. I 
figured it would take many years to get the system done and by then people 
would normally be using 32-bit machines anyway, and that turned out to be 
true.</p>
+
+<p>So then the only thing that I needed before I could start work was a name. 
Now, to be a hacker means to enjoy playful cleverness -- in programming, and in 
other areas of life, any area of life [where] you could be playfully clever. 
And there was a hacker tradition that when you were writing a program that was 
similar to some existing program, you could give your new program a name that's 
a recursive acronym, saying it is not the other program.</p>
+
+<p>For instance, in the '60s and '70s there were many TECO text editors, more 
or less similar; typically each system would have a TECO and it would be called 
something-or-other-TECO. But one clever hacker called his program TINT, for 
"TINT Is Not TECO" -- the first recursive acronym. And we thought that was very 
funny.  So after I developed the first Emacs extensible text editor in 1975, 
there were many imitations, and some were called this-or-that-Emacs. But one 
was called FINE for "FINE Is Not Emacs" and there was SINE for "SINE Is Not 
Emacs", and EINE for "EINE Is Not Emacs", and MINCE for "MINCE Is Not Complete 
Emacs." Then EINE was mostly rewritten, and version two was called ZWEI for 
"ZWEI Was EINE Initially." [Laughter]</p>
+
+<p>So I looked for a recursive acronym for "Something is not UNIX," but the 
usual four-letter method was no good, because none of those was a word. And if 
it doesn't have some other meaning, it's not funny. So I thought, "what else 
can I do, hmm?"  Nothing came to me, so I thought, "I'll make a contraction, 
then I could get a three-letter recursive acronym." I started substituting all 
26 letters: ANU, BNU, CNU, DNU, ENU, FNU, GNU! Well, "gnu" is the funniest word 
in the English language, so that had to be the choice. If you can call 
something "GNU," it makes no sense to pick anything else.</p>
+
+<p>So, of course, the reason why the word "gnu" is used for so much word-play 
is that, according to the dictionary, it's pronounced "new." So people started 
asking each other, "hey, what's g-nu," as a joke, long before you could answer 
"GNU's Not UNIX." But now you can give that answer and the best part is, it 
sounds like you're obnoxiously telling the person what it isn't, instead of 
answering his question. But the fact is, you're giving the exact meaning of 
GNU; so you are, in fact, answering the question in the most exact possible 
way, but it gives the appearance that you're refusing to.</p>
+
+<p>In any case, when it's the name of our operating system, please pronounce a 
hard G; don't follow the dictionary. If you talk about the "new" operating 
system, you'll get people very confused. We've been working on it for 20 years 
now, so it's not new anymore. But it still is, and always will be, GNU, no 
matter how many people call it Linux by mistake.</p>
+
+<p>{[<b>AUDIENCE:</b> unintelligible]
+[<b>RICHARD:</b> Thank you!]}</p>
+
+<p>So, having the name I could start work. I quit my job at MIT to begin 
writing pieces of the GNU operating system, in January 1984. I had to quit my 
job because, had I remained an MIT employee, that would have enabled MIT to 
claim to own all the code I was writing, and MIT could have turned it into 
proprietary software products. And since MIT had already done that kind of 
thing, I certainly couldn't trust them not to do so here. And I didn't want to 
have to argue with the MIT administration about all the details of the license 
I was going to use. So, by quitting my job, I took them out of the equation, 
and I have never had a job since then. However, the head of the AI Lab was nice 
enough to let me keep using the facilities, so I began using a UNIX machine at 
the AI Lab to start bootstrapping pieces of the GNU system.</p>
+
+<p>I had never used UNIX before that time. I was never a UNIX wizard and I 
chose to follow the design of UNIX for the exact reason that I've told you, not 
because UNIX was my favorite system or anything. Sometimes people write that it 
was changes in UNIX's licensing policy that inspired GNU. Well, this is not 
true; in fact, UNIX was never free software. They were more or less restrictive 
and more or less nasty about enforcing the requirements, but it was never free 
software, so those changes actually made no difference and, in any case, they 
took place long before I ever saw an actual UNIX machine.</p>
+
+<h3>4. GNU Emacs</h3>
+
+<p>So, at the time, I thought that I and the other people I was recruiting to 
try to help would develop all these pieces and make a complete system and then 
we'd say, "come and get it." But that's not how it happened. In September '84, 
I started developing GNU Emacs, which was my second implementation of the 
extensible programmable text editor. And by early '85, it was suitable for me 
to do all my editing with it. Now, that was a big relief. You see, I had 
absolutely no intention of learning to use Vi. [Laughter, applause] So, until 
that point, I did my editing on other machines where there was an Emacs and 
copied the files through the net, in order to test them on the UNIX machine. 
Once GNU Emacs was running, I could do my editing on the UNIX machine.</p>
+
+<p>But other people wanted to get copies of GNU Emacs to use it for their 
editing, to use it on their UNIX systems. There was no GNU system yet, there 
were just a few pieces. But this one piece turned out to be interesting by 
itself. People asked me for copies, so I had to work out the details of how to 
distribute it. Of course, I put a copy in the anonymous FTP server, and that 
was good for people on the net, but in 1985, most programmers were not on the 
Internet. So they asked me for copies; what was I going to say? I could have 
said, "I want to spend my time writing more pieces of the GNU system, not 
writing mag tapes, so please find a friend who can download it and put it on 
tape for you," and they would have found people sooner or later, because 
programmers generally know other programmers.</p>
+
+<h3>5. Expensive habits</h3>
+
+<p>But I had no job, and I was looking for some way to make some money through 
my work on free software. So I announced, "send me $150 and I'll mail you a 
tape of GNU Emacs." And the orders began dribbling in. By the middle of the 
year, they were trickling in, eight to ten orders a month, which, if necessary, 
I could have lived on.</p>
+
+<p>That's because I make efforts to resist expensive habits. An expensive 
habit is like a trap; it's dangerous. Now most Americans have the exact 
opposite attitude: if they make this much money, they look for how to spend 
this much, [makes ample gesture] which is completely imprudent. So they start 
buying houses and cars and boats and planes and rare stamps and artwork and 
adventure travel and children, [laughter] all sorts of expensive luxuries that 
use up a lot of the world's resources, especially the children. And then, the 
next thing they know, they've got to desperately struggle all day long to get 
money to pay for these things, so they have no time even to enjoy them, which 
is especially sad when it's a matter of children. The other things, I guess, 
can get repossessed. So then they become puppets of money, unable to decide 
what they're going to do with their lives. If you don't want to be a puppet of 
money, then resist the expensive habits, so that the less you need to spend to 
live on, the more flexibility you've got and the less of your life you're 
forced to spend to make that money.</p>
+
+<p>So I still live, basically, like a student, and I want it to be that 
way.</p>
+
+<h3>6. Definition of free software</h3>
+
+<p>But people sometimes used to say to me, "what do you mean, it's free 
software, if it costs $150?" Well, the English word "free" has multiple 
meanings and they were confused by that. It even took me a few years to realize 
that I needed to clarify this. One meaning, you see, refers to price, and 
another meaning refers to freedom. When we speak of free software, we're 
talking about freedom, not price. So think of "free speech," not "free 
beer."</p>
+
+<p>Some users got their copies of GNU Emacs from me through the net, and did 
not pay. Some users got their copies from me on a tape, and did pay. And some 
got their copies from someone else, not from me, because everyone who had a 
copy was free to redistribute it. And did they pay that somebody else? Well, I 
don't know; that was between them. They didn't have to tell me. So GNU Emacs 
was gratis for some users and paid for for other users, but it was free 
software for all of them, because all of them had certain essential freedoms, 
which are the definition of free software.</p>
+
+<p>So let me now give you the definition of free software. You see, it's very 
easy to say "I'm in favor of freedom." I mean, even Bush can say that. 
[Laughter] I don't think he knows what it means. But the point is, unless you 
make a person get more specific, it's just cheap talk. So let me give you -- 
let me get more specific now, and give you the definition of free software.</p>
+
+<p>A program is free software for you, a particular user, if you have the 
following four freedoms:</p>
+
+<p>Freedom 0 is the freedom to run the program however you like;
+Freedom 1 is the freedom to help yourself by studying the source code to see 
what the program really does and then changing it to do what you want;
+Freedom 2 is the freedom to help your neighbor by distributing copies to 
others; and
+Freedom 3 is the freedom to help build your community, that is the freedom to 
publish a modified version so others can benefit from your changes;</p>
+
+<p>All four of these freedoms are essential. They are not levels of freedom, 
they are four freedoms, all of which you must have in order for the program to 
qualify as free software. All of these are freedoms that no computer user 
should ever be denied.</p>
+
+<p>[<a 
href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html";>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html</a>]</p>
+
+<h3>7. Freedom 2   moral dilemma</h3>
+
+<p>Why these particular freedoms? Why should we define it this way?</p>
+
+<p>Freedom 2 is necessary so that you can live an upright life, so that you 
can be ethical, be a good member of society. If you use a program that does not 
give you Freedom 2, the freedom to help your neighbor, the freedom to 
distribute copies to others, then you are facing a potential moral dilemma that 
could happen at any moment, when somebody comes up and says, "could I have a 
copy of that program?" At that point, what are you going to do? You're forced 
to choose between two evils. One evil is to make a copy of the program for that 
person and violate the license. The other evil is to comply with the license, 
but be a bad neighbor. So you've got to choose the lesser evil, which is to 
make a copy for that person and violate the license. [Laughter, applause]</p>
+
+<p>You see, in this case, this evil is lesser because it's directed at 
somebody who intentionally tried to divide you from the rest of society, and 
thus did something extremely wrong to you; and therefore deserves it. However, 
it's not good to live your life by lying to people. When somebody {asks you to 
promise that} says, "I'll let you have a copy of this, but you'll have to 
promise not to share it with anyone," the right thing to do is say no. Once you 
have thought about this moral dilemma, you should anticipate that when you 
start using that program it's going to lead you to choose between two evils, 
and therefore you should refuse to use that program. You should just say "no, 
thanks" to it, and that's the principle that I believe in. If someone offers me 
a program that I'm not free to share with you, I'm going to say no, on 
principle.</p>
+
+<p>In fact, I was once in the audience when John Perry Barlow was giving a 
speech and he said, "raise your hands if you have no unauthorized copies of 
software." And he was surprised to see someone raise his hand, until he saw it 
was me. And then he said, "oh, of course, you," because he knew why I have no 
unauthorized copies; that's because all my copies of software are free 
software, and everybody's authorized to make copies. That's the whole point.</p>
+
+<h3>8. Freedom 2   spirit of good will</h3>
+
+<p>The most essential resource of any society is the spirit of good will, the 
willingness to help your neighbor; not necessarily every time you're asked, but 
fairly often. This is what makes the difference between a livable society and a 
dog-eat-dog jungle. This spirit is not going to be 100% and it's not going to 
be zero, but it's going to be somewhere in between -- and cultural actions can 
influence it, can raise it or lower it. And it's essential to work to raise it 
some, because that makes life easier for everyone. So it's no accident that the 
world's major religions have been encouraging this spirit of good will for 
thousands of years.</p>
+
+<p>So what does it mean when powerful social institutions say that it's wrong 
to share? They're poisoning this vital resource, something no society can 
afford. Now what does it mean when they say that if you share with your 
neighbor, you're a pirate? They're saying that helping your neighbor is the 
moral equivalent of attacking a ship. Well, nothing could be more wrong than 
that. Attacking ships is very, very bad; helping your neighbor is good.</p>
+
+<p>And what does it mean when they establish harsh punishments for anyone 
caught sharing? How much fear do you think it's going to take before everyone's 
too scared to help his neighbor? And do you want that terror campaign to go on 
in our society? I hope that the answer is no. We need to abolish the war on 
copying that is being imposed on our society. We need to say, loud and clear, 
"copying and sharing with your neighbor is good, it's legitimate, and laws that 
prohibit this are wrong."</p>
+
+<h3>9. Freedom 0   to run a program, Freedom 1   to modify it</h3>
+
+<p>So that's the reason for Freedom 2; it's essentially an ethical reason. You 
can't live an ethical life if you don't have Freedom 2.</p>
+
+<p>Freedom 0 is needed for a completely different reason: so you can control 
your own computer. If you are restricted in when or how much or how you can run 
the program, clearly you're not using your computer in freedom. So Freedom 0 is 
obvious, but freedom 0 is not enough, because with Freedom 0 all you can do is 
use the program the way it was programmed by its developer. You're free to do 
this [makes hand sign] or nothing. To really be free, you've got to be in 
control of what the program does, so you need Freedom 1, which is the freedom 
to help yourself, the freedom to study the source code and then change it to do 
what you want.</p>
+
+<p>If you don't have Freedom 1, you don't know what the program's doing. The 
developer is saying, "just trust me" and blind faith is the only way you can do 
it. And you have to be really blind, given that it's not unusual for 
proprietary programs to have malicious features, features that are put in not 
to serve the user, but rather to impose on, harm or restrict the user. For 
instance, spyware is quite common.</p>
+
+<p>[51 seconds of missing audio were filled in by RMS in Aug 2010]</p>
+
+<p>Microsoft Windows spies on the user; specific spy features have been
+found.  Windows Media Player spies too; it reports to Microsoft
+whatever the user looks at.</p>
+
+<p>[End replacement for 51 seconds of missing audio]</p>
+
+<p>course do it. RealPlayer, for instance, spies on you. The TiVo spies on 
you. Some people were excited about the TiVo, enthusiastic about it, because it 
uses some free software inside. But it also has non-free software in it and it 
spies on you. So this shows it's not enough. We shouldn't cheer when something 
uses some free software; we should cheer when it respects the user's 
freedom.</p>
+
+<h3>10. DRM, back doors, bugs</h3>
+
+<p>But spyware is not as bad as it gets. There are non-free software packages 
that are deliberately designed to refuse to work. This is called DRM, Digital 
Restrictions Management, where the program says, "I won't let you look at that 
file; I won't let you copy this; I won't let you edit this." Well, who the hell 
is this program to stop you? And sometimes non-free programs will reconfigure 
your machine, for instance make it display advertisements, figuring that you 
won't know it's going to happen and you won't know how to undo it afterward.</p>
+
+<p>And sometimes they have actual back doors. For instance, Windows XP has a 
back door: when it asks for an upgrade, it tells Microsoft who you are, so 
Microsoft can give you an upgrade designed just for you. And this upgrade could 
have secret accounts, it could have special spy features, it could just refuse 
to work. And there's essentially nothing you can do. So that's the back door 
that Microsoft knows about and we know about.</p>
+
+<p>[Added in 2010: We later learned that Microsoft can force "upgrades" -- a 
much nasteri back door.]</p>
+
+<p>There might be other back doors that we don't know about and maybe even 
Microsoft doesn't know about. When I was in India in January, I was told some 
programmers in India had been arrested and accused of working for Al-Qaeda, 
trying to introduce back doors into Windows XP. So, apparently, that effort 
failed. But did some others succeed?  There's no way we can tell.</p>
+
+<p>Now, I won't claim that all developers of non-free software put in 
malicious features. There are some who try to put in features so that they will 
be convenient for the user and only for that. But they are humans, so they make 
mistakes. They can design features with all the best will that you don't like, 
or they can write bugs in their code. And when that happens, you're helpless 
too; you're the helpless prisoner of any decision that they make. Whether it's 
malicious or made with good will, if you don't like it, you're stuck.</p>
+
+<p>Now, we, the developers of free software, are also human, we also make 
mistakes. I have designed features that users didn't like. I have written code 
that had bugs in it. The difference is, {with our} you're not a prisoner of our 
decisions, because we don't keep you helpless. If you don't like my decisions, 
you can change them, because you have the freedom to change them. I won't blame 
the developers of non-free, user-subjugating software for being human and 
making mistakes; I will blame them for keeping you helpless prisoner of their 
mistakes by denying you the freedom to correct those mistakes yourself.</p>
+
+<h3>11. Freedom 3   having no master</h3>
+
+<p>But Freedom 1 is not enough. Freedom 1 is the freedom personally to study 
and change the source code. Freedom 1 is not enough because there are millions 
of users who use computers, but don't know how to program, so they can't take 
advantage of Freedom 1, not personally. And Freedom 1 is not enough even for us 
programmers, because there's just so much software, even so much free software, 
that nobody has the time to study it all and master it all and make all the 
changes that she wants.</p>
+
+<p>So the only way we can really, fully have control over our own software is 
if we do so together. And that's what Freedom 3 is for. Freedom 3 is the 
freedom to publish a modified version, so others can use it too. And this is 
what enables us to work together, taking control of our software. Because I 
could make this change in a program and publish the modified version, and then 
you could make that change and publish the modified version, and someone else 
can make that change and publish the modified version. And now we've got a 
version with all three changes in it and everybody can switch to that if 
everybody likes it.</p>
+
+<p>With this freedom, any collectivity of users can take control together and 
make the software do what they together want. Suppose there are 1,000,000 users 
who would like a certain change. Well, by luck, some of them will be 
programmers; let's say there are 10,000 of them who know how to program. Well, 
sooner or later, a few of them will make the change and publish the modified 
version and then all of those million users can switch to it. You know, most of 
them don't know how to program, but they can still switch to it. So they all 
get what they want.</p>
+
+<p>Now let's suppose there are only 1,000 people who want some other change 
and none of them knows how to program. They can still make use of these 
freedoms. They can form an organization and each put in money, so if each puts 
in $100, that makes $100,000. And at that point they can go to a programming 
company and say, "will you make this change for $100,000 and when can you have 
it done?" And if they don't like the answer from there, they can go to another 
programming company and say, "will you make this change and when can you have 
it done?"  Which shows us, first of all, that these 1,000 users who don't know 
how to program can, by using the four freedoms, get the change that they want. 
And second, it shows that free software means a free market for support.</p>
+
+<p>Proprietary software typically means a monopoly for support. Only the 
developer has the source code in most cases, so only the developer can offer 
any support. If you want a change, you've got to go to the developer and beg. 
Now, if you're very big and important, maybe the developer will pay attention. 
If you're not, the developer will say, "go away, don't bother me." Or maybe the 
developer will say, "pay us and we'll let you report a bug." And if you do 
that, the developer will say, "thank you. In six months there will be an 
upgrade. Buy the upgrade and you'll see if this bug was fixed and you will see 
what new bugs we have for you."</p>
+
+<p>But with free software, you're dealing with a free market, so that those 
who really value support can, in general, get better support for their money by 
using free software. Now, one paradoxical consequence of this is, when you have 
a choice between several non-free programs to do a job, this is actually a 
choice between monopolies. If you pick this program, the support for it 
afterwards will be a monopoly. If you pick this program, [points hand in 
different direction] the support for it will be a different monopoly, and if 
you pick this program, [points hand in different direction] the support for it 
will be yet another monopoly. So you're choosing one of these three 
monopolies.</p>
+
+<p>Now, what this shows is that merely having a choice between a discrete set 
of options is not freedom. Freedom is something much deeper and much broader 
than having a few choices you can make. Many people try to equate freedom with 
having some choice and they're missing the point completely. Freedom means that 
you get to make the decisions about how to live your life. {It doesn't mean, 
you know} Having three choices about being able to choose this master or this 
master or this master is just a choice of masters, and a choice of masters is 
not freedom. Freedom is having no master.</p>
+
+<h3>12. Copyleft   forbidding is forbidden</h3>
+
+<p>So I've explained the reasons for the four freedoms. And thus I've 
explained to you what free software means. A program is free software for you, 
a particular user, if you have all of these four freedoms.  Why do I define it 
that way? The reason is that sometimes the same code can be free software for 
some users and non-free for the rest. This might seem strange, so let me give 
you an example to show how it happens.</p>
+
+<p>The biggest example I know of is the X Window System. It was developed at 
MIT in the late '80s and released under a license that gave the user all four 
freedoms, so if you got X in source code under that license, it was free 
software for you. Among those who got it were various computer manufacturers 
that distributed UNIX systems. They got the source code for X, they changed it 
as necessary to run on their platform, they compiled it and they put the 
binaries into their UNIX system, and they distributed only the binaries to all 
of their customers under the same license as the rest of UNIX -- the same 
non-disclosure agreement. So, for those many users, the X Window System was no 
more free than the rest of UNIX. In this paradoxical situation, the answer to 
the question "is X free software or not?"  depended on where you made the 
measurement. If you made the measurement coming out of the developer's group, 
you'd say, "I observe all four freedoms; it's free software." If you made the 
measurement among the users, you'd say, "most of them don't have these 
freedoms; it's not free software."</p>
+
+<p>The developers of X did not consider this a problem, because their goal was 
not to give users freedom, it was to have a big success, and as far as they 
were concerned, those many users who were using the X Window System without 
freedom were just a part of their big success. But, in the GNU Project, our 
goal specifically was to give the users freedom. If what happened to X had 
happened to GNU, GNU would be a failure.</p>
+
+<p>So I looked for a way to stop this from happening. And the method I came up 
with is called copyleft. Copyleft is based legally on copyright law, and you 
can think of it as taking copyright and flipping it over to get copyleft.</p>
+
+<p>Here's how it works: we start with a copyright notice which legally doesn't 
actually make a difference anymore, but it reminds people that the program is 
copyrighted, which means that, by default, it's prohibited to copy, distribute 
or modify this program. But then we say, "you are authorized to make copies, 
you are authorized to distribute them, you are authorized to modify this 
program and you are authorized to publish modified or extended versions." But 
there is a condition, and the condition says that any program you distribute 
that contains any substantial part of this must, as a whole, be distributed 
under these conditions, no more and no less. Which means that, no matter how 
many people modify the program or how much, as long as any substantial amount 
of our code is in there, that program must be free software in the same way. In 
effect, we guarantee that nobody can put himself between you and me and strip 
off the freedom and pass the code on to you missing the freedom. In other 
words, forbidding is forbidden.</p>
+
+<h3>13. GNU General Public License</h3>
+
+<p>Copyleft makes the four freedoms into inalienable rights for all users, so 
that wherever the code goes, the freedom goes with it. The specific license 
that we use to implement the general concept of copyleft is called the GNU 
General Public License, or GNU GPL for short. This license is used for around 
two thirds or three quarters of all free software packages. But that still 
leaves a substantial number that have other licenses. Some of those licenses 
are copyleft licenses, some are not. So we have copylefted free software and we 
have non-copylefted free software. In both cases, the developers have respected 
your freedom; they have not tried to trample your freedom. The difference is, 
with copyleft we go further and we actively defend your freedom against anyone 
who would try to be a middleman and take it away from you, whereas the 
developers of non-copylefted free software don't do that. They have not tried 
to take away your freedom, but they don't actively protect your freedom from 
anyone else. So I think that they could do more for the sake of freedom. But 
they haven't done anything bad; insofar as they have done things, those things 
are good. So I won't say that they are wrong, I will just say that they could 
do more. I think that they're making a mistake.</p>
+
+<p>But their work is free software, so it does contribute to our community 
and, in fact, that software can be part of a free operating system such as 
GNU.</p>
+
+<h3>13a. Developing GNU</h3>
+
+<p>During the 1980s, our work on the GNU Project was to develop or find all 
these pieces of GNU so that we could have a complete GNU system. In some cases, 
someone else wrote a program and made it free software and we were able to use 
it, and that was good because it shortened the work that we had to do. For 
instance, the X Window System is one of the programs that was developed by 
others for reasons of their own, but they did make it free software, so we 
could use it.</p>
+
+<p>Now, people were saying the job was so big, we'd never finish it. Well, I 
thought we would eventually get a free operating system but I agreed the job 
was big; we had to look for shortcuts. So, for instance, I always wanted to 
have windowing facilities in GNU. I had written a couple of window systems at 
the AI LAB before even starting GNU, so of course I wanted that in the system. 
But we never developed a GNU window system because someone else developed X 
first. I looked at it and I said, "well, it's not copylefted, but it is free, 
it's popular, it's powerful, so let's just use it." And so we saved one big 
chunk of work. So we took it, X, and we put it into the GNU system and we 
started making other pieces of GNU work with X. Because the goal was to have a 
free operating system, not to have a free operating system every piece of which 
had been written purposely by us just for that.</p>
+
+<h3>14. Making money off free software</h3>
+
+<p>However, it only happened occasionally that someone else released some free 
software that was useful in GNU and when it happened, it was a coincidence, 
because they were not writing this software in order to have a free operating 
system. So when it happened, that was great, but there were lots of other 
pieces we had to develop. Some were developed by staff of the Free Software 
Foundation. The Free Software Foundation is a tax-exempt charity to promote 
free software which we founded in October, '85, after GNU Emacs' popularity 
suggested that people might actually start donating money to the GNU project. 
So we founded the Free Software Foundation and it asked for donations, but also 
took over selling the tapes of GNU Emacs. And it turns out that most of the 
FSF's income for the first many years came from that, from selling things, from 
selling copies of software and manuals that everyone was free to copy. Now this 
is interesting, because this was supposedly impossible; but we did it 
anyway.</p>
+
+<p>Now that meant I had to find some other way to make a living. As the 
president of the FSF, I did not want to compete with it; I thought that would 
be unfair and not correct behavior. So I started making my living by 
commissions to change the software I had written and teaching classes about it. 
So people would want some change to be made in Emacs or GCC, and they would 
think of hiring me, because they figured I was the author so I could do a 
better job faster. So I started charging as much as $250 an hour and I 
calculated I could make a living in 7 weeks of paid work per year -- and that 
meant enough money to spend, an equal amount to save, and an equal amount for 
taxes. And [when I reached] that point I figured, "I won't take any more paid 
work this year, I've got other, better things to do."</p>
+
+<p>So I've actually had three different free software businesses during the 
period I've been working on GNU. I've described two of them; the third one is, 
I get paid for some of my speeches. Whether I get paid for this speech, I don't 
yet know. [Laughter] I said, "please pay me what you can." Now, I think Google 
ought to be able to afford to pay me some handsome amount, but whether it will, 
I don't know. Anyway, I figured it's worth doing the speech just for the good 
it will do for the movement.</p>
+
+<h3>15. Why write free software</h3>
+
+<p>So this raises the question of why people develop free software. You see, 
there are people who believe that no one would ever write software except to 
get paid, that that's the only motive that anyone would ever have to write 
code. It's amazing, the kind of utterly stupid, simplistic theories that people 
will sometimes believe because that's part of a prevailing ideology.</p>
+
+<p>Now, human nature is very complex. Whatever it is people are doing, they 
might do for various reasons. In fact, one person will often have multiple 
motives simultaneously for a single act. Nonetheless, there are people who say, 
"if the software is free, that means nobody's paid to write it, so no one will 
write it." Now, obviously they were confusing the two meanings of the word 
"free," so their theory was based on a confusion. In any case, we can compare 
their theory with empirical fact and we can see that at least hundreds, maybe 
thousands of people are paid to work on free software, including some people 
here, I believe, and there are about a million or so people developing free 
software at all for the many different reasons they have. {So to say that 
nobody} This simplistic theory about motivation is absurd.</p>
+
+<p>So let's see what motivates people to write free software; what are the 
real motives? Well, I don't necessarily know about them. There could always be 
a person who has a motive that I don't know about or I've forgotten about. I 
can only tell you the motives that I recall encountering.</p>
+
+<p>One motive is political idealism: making the world a better place where we 
can live together in freedom. Now, that's a very important motive for me, but 
it's not my only motive. And there are others who write free software and don't 
agree with that motive at all.</p>
+
+<p>Another motive that's very important is fun. Programming is tremendous fun. 
Not for everybody, of course, but for a lot of the best programmers. And these 
are the people whose contributions we want most. In fact, it's so much fun, 
it's especially fun, when no one can tell you what to do, which is why so many 
people who have jobs programming like to write free software in their spare 
time.</p>
+
+<p>But this is not the only motive; another motive is to be appreciated. If 1% 
of our community is using your program, that's hundreds of thousands of users. 
That's a lot of people admiring you.</p>
+
+<p>Another related, but different, motive is professional reputation. If 1% of 
our community is using your program, you can put that on your resume and it 
proves you're a good programmer. You don't even have to go to school.</p>
+
+<p>Another motivation is gratitude. If you've been using the community's free 
software for years and appreciating it, then when you write a program, that's 
your opportunity to pay something back to the community that has given you so 
much.</p>
+
+<p>Another motivation is hatred for Microsoft. [Laughter] Now, this is a 
rather foolish motive, because Microsoft is really just one of many developers 
of non-free software and they're all doing the same evil thing. It's a mistake 
to focus [solely] on Microsoft, and this mistake can have bad consequences. 
When people focus too much on Microsoft, they start forgetting that all the 
others are doing something just as bad. And they may end up thinking that 
anything that competes with Microsoft is good, even if it is also non-free 
software and thus inherently just as evil. Now, it's true that these other 
companies have not subjugated as many users as Microsoft has, but that's not 
for want of trying; they just haven't succeeded in mistreating as many people 
as Microsoft has, which is hardly, ethically speaking, an excuse. Nonetheless, 
{when this particular motive motivates} this motive does motivate people to 
develop free software, so we have to count it as one of the motives that has 
this result.</p>
+
+<p>And another motive is money. When people were being paid to develop free 
software, that's part of their motive for the work that they're doing. In fact, 
when I was paid to make improvements in various programs I had written, that 
money was part of my motive for doing those particular jobs, too.</p>
+
+<p>[RMS, 2010: A motive I forgot to mention is improving a free program 
because you want to use the improvement yourself.]</p>
+
+<p>So there are many possible motives to write free software. And, 
fortunately, there are many developers of free software and a lot of free 
software is being developed.</p>
+
+<h3>16. The Kernel, Linux</h3>
+
+<p>So, during the 1980s we were filling in these missing pieces of the GNU 
operating system. By the early '90s we had almost everything necessary. Only 
one important piece was missing, one essential piece for an initial system, and 
that was the kernel. We started developing a kernel in 1990. {I was looking for 
some way to} I was looking for some shortcut, some way we could start from 
something existing. I thought that debugging a kernel would be painful, because 
you don't get to do it with your symbolic debugger, and when it crashes, it's 
sort of annoying.</p>
+
+<p>So I was looking for a way to bypass that work, and I found one eventually, 
a microkernel called Mach that had been developed as a funded project at 
Carnegie Mellon. Now, Mach doesn't have all the features of UNIX; the idea is, 
it provides certain general low-level features and you implement the rest in 
user programs. Well, that, I thought, would be easy to debug, because they're 
user programs; when they crash, the system isn't dead. So people began working 
on those user programs, which we called the GNU Hurd, because it's a herd of 
GNU servers (you see, gnus live in herds).</p>
+
+<p>Anyway, I thought that this design would enable us to get the job done 
faster, but it didn't work out that way; it actually took many years to get the 
Hurd to run, partly because Mach was unreliable, partly because the debugging 
environment wasn't very good, partly because it's hard to debug these 
multithreaded, asynchronous programs and partly because this was somewhat of a 
research project. At least that's as far as I can tell; I was never involved in 
the actual development of the Hurd.</p>
+
+<p>Fortunately, we didn't have to wait for that, because in 1991, Linus 
Torvalds, a Finnish college student, developed his own kernel, using the 
traditional monolithic design, and he got it to barely run in less than a year. 
Initially, Linux --that's what this kernel's name was-- was not free, but in 
1992 he re-released it under the GNU General Public License and at that point 
it was free software. And so it was possible, by combining Linux and the GNU 
system, to make a complete free operating system. And thus, the goal we had set 
out for, that I had announced in 1983, had been reached: there was, for the 
first time, a complete modern operating system for modern computers, and it was 
possible to get a modern computer and run it without betraying the rest of 
humanity, without being subjugated. You could do this by installing the GNU + 
Linux operating system.</p>
+
+<h3>17. GNU vs. Linux confusion problem   freedom</h3>
+
+<p>But the people who combined GNU and Linux got confused and they started 
naming the entire thing Linux, which was actually the name of one piece. And 
somehow that confusion spread faster than we have been able to correct it. So 
I'm sure you've heard many people speaking of Linux as an operating system, an 
operating system {most of which} which basically started in 1984 under the name 
of the GNU Project.</p>
+
+<p>Now, this clearly isn't right. This system isn't Linux; it contains Linux, 
Linux is the kernel, but the system as a whole is basically GNU. So I ask you: 
please don't call it Linux. If you call it Linux, you're giving Linus Torvalds 
credit for our work. Now, he contributed one important piece of the system, but 
he didn't contribute the biggest part and the overall vision was there long 
before he got involved. We started developing the system when he was in junior 
high school. So please give us equal mention; surely we deserve at least that. 
You can do that by calling the system GNU/Linux, or GNU+Linux, or GNU&Linux, 
whichever punctuation mark you feel expresses it best.</p>
+
+<p>[<a 
href="http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html";>http://www.gnu.org/gnu/gnu-linux-faq.html</a>]</p>
+
+<p>Now, of course, part of the reason why I'm asking for this is that we 
deserve credit, but that's not really a very important thing. If it were just a 
matter of credit, it wouldn't be worth making a fuss about. But there more at 
stake here. You see, when people think that the system is Linux, they then 
assume incorrectly that it was mainly developed and started by Linus Torvalds 
and then they assume incorrectly that the overall vision came from him, so they 
look at his vision and follow that. Now, his vision is apolitical. He's not 
motivated to fight for freedom. He doesn't believe that computer users deserve 
the freedom to share and change software. He has never supported our 
philosophy. Well, he has a right to his views and the fact that he disagrees 
with us doesn't reduce the value of his contribution.</p>
+
+<p>The reason we have the GNU+Linux system is because of a many-year campaign 
for freedom. We in the GNU Project didn't develop Linux, just as we didn't 
develop X, or TeX, or various other free programs that are now important parts 
of the system. But people who didn't share our values, who weren't motivated by 
the determination to live in freedom, would have seen no reason to aim for a 
complete system, and they would never have done so, and never have produced 
such a thing, if not for us.</p>
+
+<p>But this tends to be forgotten nowadays. You will see, if you look around, 
most of the discussion of the GNU system calls it Linux, and tends to refer to 
it as "open source" rather than as "free software", and doesn't mention freedom 
as an issue. This issue, which is the reason for the system's existence, is 
mostly forgotten. You see many techies who prefer to think of technical 
questions in a narrowly technical context, without looking beyond at social 
effects of their technical decisions. Whether the software tramples your 
freedom or respects your freedom, that's part of the social context. That's 
exactly what techies tend to forget or devalue. We have to work constantly to 
remind people to pay attention to freedom and, unfortunately, while we keep 
doing this, the users of our system often don't pay attention because they 
don't know it's our system.  They don't know it's the GNU system, they think 
it's Linux. And that's why it makes a real difference if you remind people 
where the system came from.</p>
+
+<p>People will say to me that it doesn't look good to ask for credit. Well, 
I'm not asking for credit for me personally; I'm asking for credit for the GNU 
Project, which includes thousands of developers. But they are right, it's true: 
people who are looking for some reason to see evil can see evil in that. So 
they go on and say, "you should let it drop, and when people call the system 
Linux, you can smile to yourself and take pride in a job well done." That would 
be very wise advice if the assumption were correct: the assumption that the job 
is done.</p>
+
+<p>We've made a great beginning, but that's all. We haven't finished the job. 
We will have finished the job when every computer is running a free operating 
system and free application programs exclusively. The job is to liberate the 
inhabitants of cyberspace. We've made a great beginning; we've developed free 
operating systems and free GUI desktops and free office suites and there are 
now tens of millions of users of these. But there are hundreds of millions of 
users of proprietary systems, so we have a long way to go. And, despite this 
wide range of free software, there are still a lot of application things that 
there is no free software to do; so we have a lot more work ahead of us.</p>
+
+<p>We've come in view of finishing the job, you know. Maybe we're only one 
order of magnitude away, having come through many orders of magnitude. But that 
doesn't mean that what's left is easy. And today we have something that we 
didn't have before: we have enemies; powerful, rich enemies, powerful enough to 
buy governments.</p>
+
+<h3>18. Enemies of free software</h3>
+
+<p>At the beginning, GNU and the free software movement had no enemies. There 
were people who weren't interested, lots of them, but nobody was actively 
trying to stop us from developing and releasing a free operating system. 
Nowadays, they are trying to stop us and the main obstacle we face is this, 
rather than the work itself.</p>
+
+<p>In the US, there are two different laws that prohibit various kinds of free 
software.</p>
+
+<p>One of them is the DMCA, which has been used to prohibit the free software 
to play a DVD. If you buy a DVD, it's lawful for you to view it in your 
computer, but the free software that would enable you to do this on your 
GNU/Linux system has been censored in the US. Now, this affects a fairly narrow 
range of software: software to view encrypted media. But many users may want to 
do that, and if they can't do that with free software, they may take that as a 
reason to use non-free software, if they don't value their freedom.</p>
+
+<p>But the big danger comes from patent law, because the US allows software 
ideas to be patented. Now, writing a non-trivial program means combining 
hundreds of different ideas. It's very hard to do that if any one of those 
ideas might be someone's monopoly. It makes software development like crossing 
a mine field, because at each design decision, probably nothing happens to you, 
but there's a certain chance that you will step on a patent and it will blow up 
your project. And, considering how many steps you have to take, that adds up 
into a serious problem. We have a long list of features that free software 
packages don't have, because we're scared to implement them.</p>
+
+<p>[<a href="http://endsoftpatents.org";>http://endsoftpatents.org</a>]</p>
+
+<p>And now, the FCC is considering applying the broadcast flag regulation to 
software. The FCC adopted a regulation {prohibiting digital TV tuners unless} 
requiring digital TV tuners to have a mechanism to block copying and this has 
to be tamper-resistant, meaning it can't be implemented in free software. They 
haven't finished deciding whether this applies to software or not, but if they 
do, they will have prohibited GNU Radio, which is free software that can decode 
digital TV broadcasts.</p>
+
+<p>Then, there's the threat from hardware that has secret specifications or is 
designed to interfere with the user's control. Nowadays there are many pieces 
of hardware you can get for your PC whose specifications are secret. They'll 
sell you the hardware, but they won't tell you how to run it. So how do we 
write free software to run it? Well, we either have to figure out the specs by 
reverse engineering or we have to put market pressure on those companies. And 
in both cases, we are weakened by the fact that so many of the users of 
GNU/Linux don't know why this system was developed and have never heard of 
these ideas that I'm telling you today. And the reason is that, when they hear 
about the system, they hear it called Linux and it's associated with the 
apolitical philosophy of Linus Torvalds. Linus Torvalds is still working on 
developing Linux. {which is, you know} Developing the kernel was an important 
contribution to our community. At the same time, he is setting a very public 
bad example by using a non-free program to do the job. Now, if he were using a 
non-free program privately, I would never even have heard about it and I 
wouldn't make a fuss about it. But by inviting the other people who work on 
Linux to use it with him, he's setting a very public example legitimizing the 
use of non-free software. So when people see that, you know, if they think 
that's okay, they can't possibly believe that non-free software is bad. So 
then, when these companies say, "yes, {we support} our hardware supports Linux, 
here is this binary-only driver you can install, and then it will work," these 
people see nothing wrong in that, so they don't apply their market pressure and 
they don't feel motivated to help in reverse engineering.</p>
+
+<p>So when we face the various dangers that we must confront, we are weakened 
by the lack of resolve. Now, having strong motivation to fight for freedom 
won't guarantee that we win all of these fights, but it will sure help. It will 
make us try harder, and if we try harder, we'll win more of them.</p>
+
+<h3>19. Treacherous computing</h3>
+
+<p>We are going to have to politically organize to keep from being completely 
prohibited from writing free software.</p>
+
+<p>Today, one of the most insidious threats to the future of free software 
comes from treacherous computing, which is a conspiracy of many large 
corporations. They call it "trusted computing," but what do they mean by that? 
What they mean is that an application developer can trust your computer to obey 
him and disobey you. So, from your point of view, it's _treacherous computing_, 
because your computer won't obey you anymore. The purpose of this plan is that 
you won't control your computer.</p>
+
+<p>[<a 
href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.htm";>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/can-you-trust.htm</a>]</p>
+
+<p>And there are various different things that treacherous computing can be 
used to do, things like prohibit you from running any program that hasn't been 
authorized by the operating system developer. That's one thing they could do. 
But they may not feel they dare go that far. But another thing that they plan 
to do is to have data that's only available to a particular application. The 
idea is that an application will be able to write data in an encrypted form, 
such that it can only be decrypted by the same application, such that nobody 
else can independently write another program to access that data. And, of 
course, they would use that for limiting access to published works, you know, 
something to be a replacement for DVDs so that it would be not only illegal, 
but impossible to write the free software to play it.</p>
+
+<p>But they don't have to stop at doing this to published data. They could do 
it to your data too. Imagine if treacherous computing is common in 10 years and 
Microsoft decides to come out with a new version of Word format that uses 
treacherous computing to encrypt your data. Then it would be impossible to 
write free software to read word files. Microsoft is trying every possible 
method to prevent us from having free software to read Word files. First, they 
switched to a secret Word format, so people had to try to figure out the 
format. Well, we more or less have figured it out. There are free programs that 
will read most Word files (not all). But then they came up with another idea. 
They said, "let's use XML." Now here's what Microsoft means when they speak of 
using XML. The beginning of the file has a trivial thing that says "this is XML 
and here comes binary Word format data," and then there's the binary Word 
format data and then there's something at the end that says, "that was binary 
Word format data." And they patented this. {so that... I'm not sure} I don't 
know exactly what the patent does and doesn't cover, but, you know, there are 
things we could do, either reading or writing that file format, probably they 
could try suing us about. And I'm sure that, if treacherous computing is 
available for them to use, they'll use that too.</p>
+
+<p>This is why we have a campaign to refuse to read Word files. Now there are 
many reasons you should refuse to read Word files. One is, they could have 
viruses in them. If someone sends you a Word file, you shouldn't look at it. 
But the point is, you shouldn't even try to look at it. Nowadays there are free 
programs that will read most Word files. But it's really better, better than 
trying to read the file is if you send a message back saying, "please send that 
to me in a format that isn't secret. It's not a good idea to send people Word 
files."  And the reason is, we have to overcome the tendency in society for 
people to use these secret formats for communication. We have to convince 
people to insist on publicly documented standard formats that everyone is free 
to implement. And Word format is the worst offender and so that's the best 
place to start. If somebody sends you a Word file, don't try to read it. Write 
back, saying "you really shouldn't do that." And there's a page in 
www.gnu.org/philosophy which is good to reference. It gives an explanation of 
why this is an important issue.</p>
+
+<p>[<a 
href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html";>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html</a>]</p>
+
+<h3>20. Help GNU</h3>
+
+<p>Now, www.gnu.org is the website of the GNU Project. So you can go there for 
more information. In the /gnu directory you'll find the history and in the 
/philosophy directory you'll find articles about the philosophy of free 
software and in the /directory you'll find the Free Software Directory, which 
now lists over 3,000 usable free software packages that will run the on 
GNU/Linux system.</p>
+
+<p>[It is now over 6000, and located in directory.fsf.org]</p>
+
+<p>Now, I'm about to close my speech, but before I do, I'd like to mention 
that I've got some stickers here to give away. These stickers show a flying gnu 
and a flying penguin, both rather unrealistic, but they're superheroes. And {I 
also have some things} if people don't mind, I've got some things I'm selling 
on behalf of the Free Software Foundation, so if you buy them, you're 
supporting us. I've got these buttons that say, "ask me about free software -- 
it's all about freedom" and I've got some GNU keyrings and GNU pins that are 
sort of pretty. So you can buy those.  You can also support us by becoming an 
associate member. Now, you can do that just through our website, but I also 
have some cards you can have if you would like to join [right now].</p>
+
+<h3>21. Saint Ignucius</h3>
+
+<p>So now I will close my speech by presenting my alter ego. See, people 
sometimes accuse me of having a "holier than thou" attitude. Now, I hope that's 
not true. I'm not going to condemn somebody just for not being as firmly 
committed as I am. I will try to encourage him to become more so, but that's 
different. So I don't think I really have a "holier than thou" attitude, but I 
have a holy attitude because I'm a saint; it's my job to be holy.</p>
+
+<p>[Dons a black robe and a magnetic disk halo]<br />
+[Laughter, applause]<br />
+[Richard holds a laptop like a holy book and waves]</p>
+
+<p>I am Saint Ignucius of the Church of Emacs. I bless your computer, my 
child.</p>
+
+<p>Emacs started out as a text editor which became a way of life for many 
computer users and then a religion. Does anyone know what the 
alt.religion.emacs newsgroup was used for? I know it existed, but since I'd 
never read net news, I don't know what was said in it.</p>
+
+<p>In any case, now we even have a great schism between two rival versions of 
Emacs, and we also have saints; no gods, though.</p>
+
+<p>To be a member of the Church of Emacs, you must recite the Confession of 
the Faith: you must say, "There is no system but GNU, and Linux is one of its 
kernels."</p>
+
+<p>The Church of Emacs has advantages compared with other churches I might 
name. To be a saint in the Church of Emacs does not require celibacy. So if 
you're looking for a church in which to be holy, you might consider ours.</p>
+
+<p>However, it does require making a commitment to live a life of moral 
purity. You must exorcise the evil proprietary operating systems that possess 
all the computers under either your practical control or your authority, and 
you must install a wholly [i.e., holy] free operating system, where "wholly" 
can be spelled in more than one way, and then only install free software on top 
of that. If you make this commitment and live by it, then you, too, will be a 
saint and you, too, may eventually have a halo -- if you can find one, because 
they don't make them anymore.</p>
+
+<p>Sometimes people ask me if, in the Church of Emacs, it is a sin to use Vi. 
Well, it's true that VI-VI-VI is the editor of the Beast, [laughter] but using 
a free version of Vi is not a sin, it's a penance.</p>
+
+<p>And sometimes people ask me if my halo is really an old computer disk. 
[Points at halo] This is no computer disk, this is my halo. But it was a 
computer disk in a previous existence.</p>
+
+<p>So, thank you everyone.</p>
+
+<p>[Applause]</p>
+
+<h3>22. About anonymity, credit cards, cell phones</h3>
+
+<p>So I can answer questions for a while.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Yeah, do you know, or can you tell us why Linus Torvalds, 
who has very very different attitudes with yours, released Linux under your 
[unintelligible]? What motivated him?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> I don't know why Linus Torvalds switched to the GNU GPL for 
Linux. You'd have to ask him that. I don't recall ever seeing the reason for 
that. I don't know.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Can you say something about the current effort to put 
security in the network itself?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> I don't know... he said, "efforts to plug security into the 
network." I don't know what that means.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> [unintelligible] remove anonymity from the network 
itself.</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Remove anonymity? Well, I don't know about those efforts, 
but I think it's horrible. I don't do e-commerce because I don't like to buy 
things with credit cards. I want to buy things anonymously and I do so by 
paying cash in a store. I don't like giving Big Brother any records about me. 
For the same reason, I do not have a cell phone. I don't want to carry a 
personal tracking device. We have to fight more to preserve our privacy from 
surveillance systems. So, although I'm not familiar with the specific efforts 
you're talking about, I find them dangerous, much more dangerous than computer 
insecurity. Now, perhaps that's because I'm not a Windows user; so I have less 
problem to deal with.</p>
+
+<h3>23. Free formats, copyright, Microsoft</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> [unintelligible]</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> No, we can't. Basically he's asking if we can monopolize 
file formats. Well, the answer is, we can't do so using our copyright-based 
licenses, because copyright does not cover any idea, principle, method of 
operation or system; it only covers the details of expression of a work of 
authorship. So we can't, using our licenses like the GNU GPL, prohibit anyone 
from writing his own code to handle the same format.</p>
+
+<p>We could conceivably get patents; however, it turns out patents are very, 
very different from copyright; they have almost nothing in common, and it turns 
out it costs a lot of money to get a patent and even more money to keep the 
patent going. And the other thing is, {Microsoft doesn't need to get} you 
shouldn't assume that what Microsoft is getting a patent on is important 
because it's a big improvement. It just has to be different. Microsoft can get 
a patent on something about a file format that's different and then they can 
force most users to switch over to a new format that uses that idea. And 
Microsoft can do this because of its market power, its control.</p>
+
+<p>We can't do that. The whole thing about the free software is, the 
developers don't have any power; the users are in control. We can't force users 
to switch over to anything, not even for their own safety.</p>
+
+<p>You know, we've been trying since around 1992 or so to convince users to 
stop using GIF format, because that format is patented and some users will get 
sued. So we said, "everybody please stop using GIF format for the sake of those 
who get sued if the public uses this format." And people haven't listened. So 
the thing is, we can't do what Microsoft does, because that's based on using 
the power that they have, and since we have chosen to respect people's freedom, 
we don't have power over the public.</p>
+
+<h3>24. Dangers of webmail   loss of freedom</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> So, when somebody's using Google, they don't have access 
to the source code that we use, so they have no way of [unintelligible] what we 
do, so using that violates their freedom.</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> When a person is accessing the Google server, they don't 
have either the binaries or the source code of the program that Google is 
using, because it's Google that's using the program; that person is not using 
the program. So I wouldn't expect to have the authority to change the software 
that's running on your computer. You should have the freedom to change the 
software that's running on your computer, but I would never expect that I would 
have the freedom to go into your computer and change the software there. Why 
should you let me do that?  So that's the way I see it when a person is using 
Google server to do a search.</p>
+
+<p>Now, there is a possible danger there. The danger doesn't come from things 
like Google. The danger comes from things like Hotmail. When people start using 
a server on the net to store their data and to do the jobs that they really 
could be doing on their own computer, that introduces a danger. I've never 
understood the people who said that thin clients were the future, because I 
can't imagine why I would ever do things that way. I've got a PC and it's 
capable of doing things like running a mail reader; I'm going to have the mail 
on my own computer, I'm not going to leave it on anybody's server. Especially 
not a server I have no reason to trust. And these days, of course, if you allow 
your personal data to be on somebody's server, you might as well be handing it 
straight to Ashcroft and his gestapo.</p>
+
+<p>[RMS, 2010: Gmail is comparable to Hotmail in this regard.  See also
+<a 
href="http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html";>http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/who-does-that-server-really-serve.html</a>
+for another issue that applies to some, but not all, network services.]</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> unintelligible</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> He's asking, "if people were using a thin client and all 
the computation were done on a remote server." Yes, it does mean that people 
lose freedom, because, clearly, you can't change the software that's set up on 
somebody else's server, so if you're using the software on somebody else's 
server, instead of running it on your own computer, you lose control. Now, I 
don't think that's a good thing, and therefore I'm going to encourage people 
not to go along with it. People will keep on developing the software to do 
these jobs on your own machine.</p>
+
+<p>{Leaving so soon? [Laughter] I hope it wasn't something I said. And gee, 
now I won't get to meet her. Anyway.}</p>
+
+<h3>25. Copyright   art vs. software</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Are the Creative Commons a different denomination of the 
same religion or a different religion?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> {Creative Commons} Well, first of all, this isn't a 
religion, except as a joke. The Church of Emacs is a joke. Please keep in mind, 
taking any church too seriously can be hazardous to your health, even the 
Church of Emacs. So this has nothing to do with religion.</p>
+
+<p>This is a matter of ethics. It's a matter of what makes for a good society 
and what kind of society we want to live in. These are not questions of dogma, 
these are questions of philosophy and politics.</p>
+
+<p>The Creative Commons licenses are designed for artistic works, and I think 
that they are good for artistic works. The issue for artistic works is not 
exactly the same as for software.</p>
+
+<p>Software is an example of a practical, functional work. You use it do to a 
job. The main purpose of a program is not that people will read the code and 
think, "boy, how fascinating, what a great job they did." The main purpose of 
software is, you run it and it does something. And yes, those people who are 
interested in software will also read it and learn, but that's not the main 
purpose. It's interesting because of the job it will do, not just because of 
how nice it is to read. Whereas with art, the main use of art is the sensation 
that you get when you look at it or listen to it. So these are very different 
ways of being used and, as a result, the ethical issues about copying and 
modification are different.</p>
+
+<p>For practical, functional works, people have to be free with the four 
freedoms, including free to publish a modified version. But for art I wouldn't 
say that. I think that there's a certain minimum freedom that we must always 
have for using any published work, and that is the freedom to non-commercially 
distribute verbatim, exact copies. But I wouldn't say that it has to go further 
than that necessarily. So I think the Creative Commons licenses are a very 
useful and good thing to use for art.</p>
+
+<h3>26. Malicious free software</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Since everybody has the freedom to modify the code and 
republish it, how do you keep out saboteurs?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Well, you don't. The point is, you can't ever. So you just 
look at these different versions and you see which one you actually like. You 
can't keep the saboteurs out of non-free software either; in fact, the 
developer could be the saboteur. The developers often put in, as I said, 
malicious features. And then you're completely helpless. At least with free 
software, you can read the source code, you can compare the two versions. If 
you're thinking of switching from this version to that version, you can compare 
them and see what's different and look for some malicious code.</p>
+
+<h3>27. Patented file formats</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Do you happen to know which popular file formats are 
secret and which ones are public?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Well, of the popular file formats, the only ones that I 
know of that are secret are some Microsoft ones. But, on the other hands, there 
are others that have patent problems. For instance, there's still a patent 
covering LZW compression, which is used in GIF format. And someone has a patent 
he claims covers JPEG format and is actually suing a bunch of companies. And 
then there's a patent on MP3 audio, so that the free software MP3 encoders have 
been driven underground in the US. That's why people should switch to Ogg 
Vorbis format. And then, if you look at, say, MPEG-2 video, there are 39 
different US patents said to cover aspects of MPEG-2. So there are a lot of 
such problems.</p>
+
+<h3>28. Games as free software</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Is there any software that sort of mixes between the 
Creative Commons and functional software, such as games or...?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Well, {you can say that a game} in many cases you can look 
at a game as the combination of a program and a scenario. And then it would 
make sense to treat the program like a program and the scenario like a work of 
fiction. On the other hand, what you see is that it's quite useful for the 
users to edit and republish modified versions of these scenarios. So, although 
those are like fiction and art, not like software, it really seems to be useful 
for users to be free to change them.</p>
+
+<h3>29. GPL freedoms for cars, saving seeds</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Do you envision this free software philosophy to go 
across, off the boundary to products, commodities...</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> When you say, "products, commodities," could you be 
concrete?</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> [unintelligible] cars</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> So should the free software philosophy apply to cars? Okay, 
well the free software philosophy is, you should be free to copy and modify 
them. So, if you have a car copier, I think you should be free to copy any car. 
But there are no car copiers, so that really is a meaningless question. And 
then, second, modifying. Well, yeah, I think if you've got a car, you should be 
free to modify it and, in fact, lots of people do modify their cars. So, there 
may be some restrictions on that, but to a large extent that freedom exists. So 
what you see is that this isn't really a meaningful question when you're 
talking about physical objects. There are, in general, no copiers for physical 
objects.</p>
+
+<p>If we imagine, someday in the future, that such copiers exist, well that 
will be a different situation and yeah, that change would have consequences for 
ethics and politics. If we had food copiers, I'm sure that agribusiness would 
be trying to forbid people from having and using food copiers. And that would 
be a tremendous political issue, just as today there's a tremendous political 
issue about whether farmers ought to be allowed to save seeds. Now, I believe 
that they have a fundamental right to save seeds and that it's tyranny to stop 
them. A democratic government would never do that.</p>
+
+<h3>30. No software is better than non-free software</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> [roughly] Do you see a problem with free software being 
under-produced because nobody wants to invest money [unintelligible]?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> I don't know what you mean by "under-produced." We see that 
some people develop free software and some don't. So we could imagine more 
people developing free software and, if so, we'd have more of it. But, you see, 
the tragedy of the commons really is a matter of overuse. And that's something 
that can happen maybe with a field, but it doesn't happen with software; you 
can't overuse a program, you don't wear it out. So, really, there's no analogy 
there.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Well, the example you gave is, let's say there's a useful 
program and a thousand people want a change to it. You said they could get 
their money together and go hire a programmer to make the change. But each 
individual in that group can say, "well, I'll just let the 999 pay for the 
change."</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Well, they can do that, but that would be pretty stupid, 
because if they saw that the result was, it wasn't getting done, then if it's 
of some importance to them, then they're much better off joining and 
contributing their money so that the change gets made. And whether they do this 
or not, either way I won't agree that anything tragic has happened. If they 
join and they pay for their change and they get it, that's good, and if they 
don't join and they don't pay for that change, that's good too; I guess they 
didn't want it enough. Either one's okay.</p>
+
+<p>Non-free software is evil and we're better off with nothing than with 
non-free software. The tragedy of the commons can happen either through overuse 
or under-contribution, but overuse is impossible in software. 
Under-contribution happens when a program is proprietary. Then it's a failure 
to contribute to the commons. And so I would like that proprietary software to 
stop being developed. A non-free program is worse than no program, because 
neither one allows you to get a job done in freedom, but the non-free program 
might tempt people to give up their freedom and that's really bad.</p>
+
+<h3>31. Portability of free software</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Is their a potential conflict between the free software 
philosophy and the portability of [unintelligible]?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> No, {I don't see} this makes no sense to me at all. I see 
no conflict between the philosophy of free software and portability. And in the 
free software world we've worked very hard to achieve portability from all 
sides. We make our software very portable and we make our software standardized 
so that other people can easily have portability, so we are aiding portability 
from every possible direction. Meanwhile, you see Microsoft deliberately 
introducing incompatibilities and deliberately blocking interoperability. 
Microsoft can do that because it has power. We can't do that. If we make a 
program incompatible and the users don't like it, they can change it. They can 
change it to be compatible. So we are not in a position where we could impose 
incompatibility on anybody, because we have chosen not to try to have power 
over other people.</p>
+
+<h3>32. Is some free software obfuscated on purpose?</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Something [unintelligible] obfuscated [unintelligible] 
understand it.</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Well, I disagree with you. Please, this is silly. If you're 
saying a program is hard to understand, that's not the same as the people are 
restricting it. It's not the same as saying, "you're forbidden to see it." Now, 
if you find it unclear, you can work on making it clearer. The fact is, the 
developers probably are trying to keep it clear, but it's a hard job and, 
unless you want to compare our software with proprietary software and see which 
one is clearer, you have no basis to make the claim that you're making. From 
what I hear, non-free software is typically much worse and the reason is that 
the developers figure no one will ever see it, so they'll never be embarrassed 
by how bad it is.</p>
+
+<h3>33. Proprietary   keeping an edge</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> You hear the argument a lot from people who manufacture 
devices or [unintelligible] hardware that they need to have proprietary 
software in order to give them an edge, because, if they gave away the software 
for free, then a competitor could manufacture the device [unintelligible].</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> I don't believe this. I think it's all bullshit, because 
there they are competing with each other and each one's saying, "we need to 
make the software proprietary to have an edge over the others." Well, if none 
of them did it, they might all lose their edge?  I mean, so what? We shouldn't 
buy this. And I mean, we shouldn't buy what they're saying and we shouldn't buy 
their products either.</p>
+
+<h3>34. Forbidding is forbidden   how is this freedom?</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> I might be saying [unintelligible]</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Please don't. The issue that you want to raise may be a 
good issue, but please try to raise it in a neutral way, rather than raising it 
with an attack.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> There's something in my mind, so I'll just speak up. The 
thing is, by actually registering [unintelligible] thing and saying that "you 
can redistribute this software but you have to comply with these four 
freedoms," is that not restricting my freedom too?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> No, it's restricting you from having power. To stop A from 
subjugating B is not a denial of freedom to A, because to subjugate others is 
not freedom. That's power.</p>
+
+<p>Now, there may be people who would like to exercise power and we're 
stopping them, but that's good and that's not denying anyone freedom.</p>
+
+<p>I mean, you could just as well say if you're overthrowing a dictator, the 
dictator's saying, "you're taking away my freedom to dictate to everyone!" But 
that's not freedom, that's power.</p>
+
+<p>So I'm making the distinction between freedom, which is having control over 
your own life, and power, which is having control over other people's lives. 
We've got to make this distinction; if we ignore the difference between freedom 
and power, then we lose the ability to judge whether a society is free or not. 
You know, if you lose this distinction, then you look at Stalinist Russia and 
you say, "well, there was just as much freedom there, it's just that Stalin had 
it all." No! In Stalinist Russia, Stalin had power and people did not have 
freedom; the freedom wasn't there, because it's only freedom when it's a matter 
of controlling your own life. Controlling other people's lives is not freedom 
at all, not for either of the people involved.</p>
+
+<h3>35. Can Google help free software</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> In your opinion, is there anything that Google as a 
company could do better in the spirit of free software?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> I actually don't know enough about what Google is doing to 
have any opinion. But if Google would like to donate some money to the Free 
Software Foundation, we would gladly accept it. {I gather that, I mean} I met 
some people here who are working on a particular free program, namely Linux, 
the kernel. And I didn't ask actually if they publish their improvements. 
[<b>AUDIENCE:</b> They do] Oh good, so that's contributing. I mean, if you want 
to contribute to other pieces of free software, that would be nice too, but I 
don't know if you have a need to do that. And, of course, if you ever have a 
chance to release some other generally useful new piece of free software, that 
would be good too.</p>
+
+<p>[RMS, 2010: Google now distributes some large nonfree programs.  Some
+are written in Javascript, and servers install them without your
+noticing.]</p>
+
+<h3>36. Free software on windows, good or bad</h3>
+
+<p>I'll take three more questions.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> So, if I develop free software for a proprietary system 
such as Windows, essentially I'm supporting the proprietary system. Am I doing 
a good or a bad thing here?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Well, there's a good aspect and a bad aspect. In regard to 
the use of your code, you're respecting other people's freedom, so that's good, 
but the fact that it only runs on Windows is bad. So, really, you shouldn't 
develop it on Windows. You shouldn't use Windows. Using Windows is bad. {That 
is, in itself} It's not as bad as being the developer of Windows, but it's 
still bad and you shouldn't do that.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> So you're saying, just don't do it at all.</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Yeah, don't use Windows. Use GNU/Linux and develop your 
free program for GNU/Linux instead. And then it will be good in both ways.</p>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> But couldn't it open Windows users to this ideology?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> It could, but there's enough free software available for 
use on Windows to have that effect. And the thing is, developing software for 
Windows is going to create a practical incentive for people to use Windows, 
rather than use GNU/Linux. So, please don't.</p>
+
+<p>[RMS, 2010: to put it more clearly, making free programs run also on
+Windows can be useful as he said; however, writing a free program only
+for Windows is a waste.]</p>
+
+<h3>37. SCO's suit</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> What would be the impact of SCO winning their argument 
against Linux? So what would be the impact on...</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> I don't know, it depends. It would have no effect on the 
GPL. But {it might have some effect} some code might have to be removed from 
Linux. And whether that would be a big problem or a tiny problem depends on 
what code, so there's no way of saying. But I don't think SCO is a real 
problem. I think software patents and treacherous computing and hardware with 
secret specs, those are the real problems. That's what we've got to be fighting 
against.</p>
+
+<h3>38. Stallman's problem typing</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> I have a non-ideology question. I'm personally very 
interested in your battle with repetitive stress injuries and the impact that 
it had on the development of GNU Hurd.</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> None, because I was never working on the GNU Hurd. {I've 
never} We hired a person to write the GNU Hurd. I had nothing to do with 
writing it. And there were a few years when I couldn't type much and then we 
hired people to type for me. And then I found, by using keyboards with a light 
touch, I could type again.</p>
+
+<h3>39. Open source, good or bad   Pat-riot Act.</h3>
+
+<p><b>AUDIENCE:</b> Can you give us your opinion of open source?</p>
+
+<p><b>RICHARD:</b> Well, the open source movement is sort of like the free 
software movement, except with the philosophical foundation discarded. So they 
don't talk about right and wrong, or freedom, or inalienable rights, they just 
don't present it in ethical terms. They say that they have a development 
methodology that they say typically results in technically superior software. 
So they only appeal to practical, technical values.</p>
+
+<p>And what they're saying may be right and if this convinces some people to 
write free software, that's a useful contribution. But I think they're missing 
the point when they don't talk about freedom, because that's what makes our 
community weak, that we don't talk about and think about freedom enough. People 
who don't think about freedom won't value their freedom and they won't defend 
their freedom and they'll lose it. Look at the USA Pat-riot Act. You know, 
people who don't value their freedom will lose it.</p>
+
+<h3>40. The end</h3>
+
+<p>So thank you, and if anyone wants to buy any of these FSF things or...</p>
+
+<p>[Applause]</p>
+
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