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From: John Sullivan
Subject: www/philosophy patent-practice-panel.html
Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2006 20:32:50 +0000

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+    <title>Daniel Ravicher's FFII panel presentation, November 10, 2004 - GNU 
Project - Free Software Foundation (FSF)</title>
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+    <h3>New developments in patent practice: assessing the risks and cost of
+    portfolio licensing and hold-ups</h3>
+
+    <p>
+      by Daniel B. Ravicher
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      <a href="/graphics/philosophicalgnu.html"><img 
src="/graphics/philosophical-gnu-sm.jpg" alt="" width="160" height="200" /></a>
+    </p>
+
+    <p><em> This is a transcript of a panel presentation given by Daniel B.
+    Ravicher as the executive director of the Public Patent Foundation on
+    Wednesday, November 10, 2004, at a conference organized by the Foundation
+    for a Free Information Infrastructure (FFII) in Brussels, Belgium. The
+    transcription was done by Aendrew Rininsland. </em></p>
+
+    <p>Thanks. I think, for me, the whole two days of conferences boils to
+    really one question, and the whole debate boils down to one question:
+    &ldquo;How do we want success in the software industry to be
+    determined?&rdquo;
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      Or, another way, who do we want to determine those who succeed and those
+      who fail in the software industry? Because there are various people who
+      can make this decision. We can have bureaucrats make the decision about
+      who wins and who fails, or we can let consumers make the decision about
+      who wins and who fails. If we want software to succeed because we want it
+      to succeed on its merits and be the best software that the public can
+      have, it's more likely we want a system that lets consumers and end-users
+      make the decision about which software is selected &mdash; not
+      bureaucrats.
+    </p>
+
+    <p>        
+      Now, what does that have to do with patents? The larger you make a patent
+      system, the more you allow the patent system to impact software, and the 
more
+      you're allowing success in the software industry to be determined by
+      patent-based bureaucrats, those who can take advantage of the 
bureaucracy which
+      grants and resolves disputes regarding patent rights. It's a bureaucratic
+      competition, not one based on the decision of consumers. That means it's 
less
+      likely for the merits to be determinative of what software succeeds.
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      We have to recognize that even without software patents, large 
developers have
+      intrinsic advantages over small developers. Large developers have the
+      resources, large developers have the relationships, large developers 
have the
+      distribution channels, large developers have the brand. So even without
+      software patents, large developers are still at an advantage &mdash; 
they start
+      out at an advantage. Well, then, the next question to me is, &ldquo;If 
we have
+      software patents, does that increase the advantage of large developers or
+      decrease it?&rdquo;, because the patent system could benefit small 
developers
+      and therefore that could erode some of the naturally existing benefits 
that
+      large corporations have.
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      I think that point's been belaboured already. We know that small 
developers are
+      not benefited by a patent system, in fact, they are prejudiced by a 
patent
+      system. So, enlarging a patent system to apply to software development 
only
+      enlarges the disadvantage small developers have in competition. Again, 
it comes
+      back: Who do we want to make the decision about which software developers
+      succeed, do we want consumers, based on merits and functionality and 
price, or
+      bureaucrats, based on whom patents are granted to and who wins patent
+      infringement cases?
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      The other thing we need to recognize is whether or not the patent system 
has a
+      preference for users of certain types of software. A patent system as we 
have
+      in the United States benefits those under a software distribution scheme 
which
+      allows them to charge royalties. This is because all software has to 
deal with
+      the risk of infringing on patents. Patents don't discriminate between
+      open-source or freely licensed software and proprietary software: a 
patent
+      covers certain technology, it doesn't matter how the software's 
distributed.
+      But proprietary software is licensed with a fee so the cost of that risk 
can be
+      passed on to the consumer without them recognizing it. They don't see 
it, it's
+      baked into the price of the software they're buying and if you were to 
ask a
+      consumer if they've bought insurance against being sued for patent
+      infringement, they would say they don't believe that have. But in fact 
they
+      had, because if someone sues a user of Microsoft software, Microsoft has 
built
+      in the cost of stepping in to defend them from that into the cost of the
+      license fee. On the other side, if you have royalty-free distributed 
software
+      such as open-source or free software, you can't bake in the cost of that 
risk
+      so it becomes more transparent. And this makes consumers or users think 
that
+      open-source is in a worse position than proprietary software when it's 
actually
+      not. It's just because the open-source distribution scheme does not allow
+      someone to sneak in the cost of that risk to make it opaque instead of
+      transparent. So the patent system not only prefers large developers over 
small
+      developers, it also prefers users of proprietary software over 
open-source
+      software.
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      If we come back to the initial question, which I think this is all 
about, how
+      do we want success in the software market to be determined? Do we want 
it to be
+      determined by these types of factors, or do we want it to be determined 
by who
+      can get the best software at the best price?
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      Now, I think it's important to concede the point that people on the 
other side
+      will make, which is, will a less-onerous patent system, or they would 
call it a
+      'less-beneficial' patent system, I call it less-onerous, will harm their
+      business, because people could copy them. Well, large businesses aren't 
worried
+      about being copied. They really aren't. At least not by other large 
businesses,
+      this is why they enter into cross-licenses all the time. If a large 
company
+      really didn't want its software to be copied, why is it licensing its 
patent
+      portfolio to every other big company in the world? Because it can't stop 
them
+      from copying it once they enter into that agreement, so this argument 
that ,
+      &ldquo;Well, we're worried about people copying our software&rdquo;, the 
most
+      likely people to copy your software are other large businesses because 
they
+      have the resources and the ability and the distribution channels and the 
brand
+      and the relationships. Why are you letting them copy it? You must not be 
that
+      worried about it.
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      And so the question is, then, does a patent system have a net-beneficial 
effect
+      or a net-detrimental effect on software development? I think we've seen 
already
+      it only decreases the ability for open-source or royalty-free license 
software
+      to compete with proprietary software. In the end you have to ask, is less
+      competition beneficial for the software industry? I don't know what 
Europeans
+      think about that, I think Europeans are very pro-competition and I know 
us on
+      the other side of the Atlantic are very pro-competition as well, and so 
the
+      answer is never less competition is better for consumers. And so I think 
as we
+      bring the point home, if we had two seconds in an elevator to pitch this 
idea
+      to someone, software patents have a net-negative effect on competition 
in the
+      software industry. True, they may increase competition in some ways, but 
the
+      net-effect is anti-competitive. And that's what putting the ability to 
decide
+      success in the software industry in the hands of the patent office or in 
hands
+      of the courts does. If you need examples, if people think that's just 
rhetoric
+      or your opinion, just point to the United States. Microsoft is a very
+      successful software company, I don't think anyone would debate that. 
They've
+      never had to sue anyone for patent infringement. So they claim they need
+      patents, but yet they've never had to use them. They cross-license them 
and
+      that's where we wonder, 'If you're worried about people copying, then 
why are
+      you cross-licensing them to people?'.
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      You know, the last point is, who else does a patent system benefit? If it
+      benefits large developers over small developers, is there anyone else? A 
patent
+      system benefits non-developers. Do we really want a bureaucratic system 
that
+      helps people who aren't adding anything to society? What I mean by
+      non-developers are trolls &mdash; which everyone here is familiar with 
&mdash;
+      people who get a patent either by applying for it or acquiring it in 
some asset
+      purchase and then use it to tax other developers, other distributors of a
+      product.
+    </p>
+
+    <p>
+      Do we really want a system which encourages people to not add products or
+      services to the market place but only detracts from the profits and
+      capabilities of those that do?
+    </p>
+
+    <hr />
+    <h4><a href="/philosophy/philosophy.html">Other Texts to Read</a></h4>
+    <hr />
+
+    <div class="copyright">
+
+      <p>
+        Return to the <a href="/home.html">GNU Project home page</a>.
+      </p>
+
+      <p>
+        Please send FSF &amp; GNU inquiries to <a
+        href="mailto:address@hidden";><em>address@hidden</em></a>. There are 
also <a
+        href="http://www.fsf.org/about/contact.html";>other ways to contact</a>
+        the FSF.
+        <br />
+        Please send broken links and other corrections (or suggestions) to
+
+        <a href="mailto:address@hidden";><em>address@hidden</em></a>.
+      </p>
+
+      <p>
+        Please see the 
+        <a href="/server/standards/README.translations.html">Translations
+        README</a> for information on coordinating and submitting
+        translations of this article.
+      </p>
+
+      <p>
+        Copyright &copy; 2006 Daniel B. Ravicher
+        <br />
+        Verbatim copying and distribution of this entire article is
+        permitted in any medium, provided this notice is preserved.
+      </p>
+
+      <p>
+        Updated:
+        <!-- timestamp start -->
+        $Date: 2006/06/16 20:32:48 $ $Author: johnsu01 $
+        <!-- timestamp end -->
+      </p>
+    </div>
+
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