Re: [Swftools-common] SWFTools Wiki

[Hans J Nuecke]

Hi Chris, Pablo,
thank you for pushing this! I fully support your thoughts/suggestions
and plan to help best I can; although my coding skills are very limited ;-)
Regards
Hans

Am 14.09.2014 um 18:00 schrieb Pablo Rodríguez:
> Hi Chris,
>
> I think it is essential to contact Matthias as soon as possible. So it
> will be clear which is the current project status. It would be great, if
> you could contact him.
>
> As far as I can see, the git version from Ricardo seems to be an
> outdated version, rather than a forked version from Matthias.
>
> We already spoke about this in the past. We need a central site from
> which to manage everything related to swftools.
>
> Although this is a minor issue. The real issue is to find a group of
> developers that want to take over swftools. I cannot code.
>
> I see two main features to be implemented in swftools:
>
> - LZMA compression for Flash files.
> - Ogg Vorbis decoder (or Opus decoder, once enabled in Flash).
>
> This is besides the bugs that have been reported to this list. I’d be
> happy to help with those, but I cannot contribute code.
>
> But having a clear statement from Matthias would help to start moving.
>
> Chris, I’d (and I think all of us would) really appreciate, if you could
> contact Matthias to clarify the situation of the project.
>
> Many thanks for your help again,
>
>
> Pablo
>
>
>
> On 09/14/2014 03:51 PM, RDP wrote:
>> Hi there Pablo,
>>
>> Still out there I see. How's it all going? ;o)
>>
>> To be fair I have done very little with the wiki, other than keep it
>> ticking over!
>> I agree with you entirely in respect of the dearth of activity. That was in 
>> fact
>> the major reason for my post.  Some confirmation of the current status from
>> Herr Kramm, would indeed be very useful!  Maybe he, like most of us, has
>> better and/or more importat things occulying his mind and time?  ( I believe
>> I had a contact number for him at one stage.. I could maybe go direct!   )
>>
>> Hosting is no great shakes, at least for now.  I am moving the small amount
>> of stuff I still maintain ( entirely non-commercial at present )
>> elsewhere shortly.
>> When I do so, the wiki, and all it's associated content will/ have to
>> go as well.
>> The IP for wiki.swftools.org will change, so Matthoas qill need to make the
>> appropriate amendment to the dns setings for swftools.org
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge, there are two git versions of swftools.  The
>> official one maintained by Matthias himself, from which the wiki version is
>> regularly cloned and made viewable with ViewGit,
>>
>>      http://wiki.swftools.org/viewgit
>>
>> and that ( a flork?) by Ricardo Pedroso,
>>
>>    https://github.com/rpedroso
>>
>> However, search for swftools on GitHub, and you'll find more than a few other
>> variations on a theme to choose from!!
>>
>> Implementing a bug tracker, the wiki, and a few dozen other things the
>> project could maybe do with, to give it the necessary lift, is no great
>> shakes,really.  I'm also happy to continue hosting it, at least for now.
>> However, maintaining, patching, and updating is another kettle of fish.
>> To my mind, the project needs more of a community, and some serious
>> core code maintainers to review and implement any patches, rather than
>> just the odd one or two people.  I'm simply not that familiar with the code
>> base myself.  Merely an inveterate and occasional meddler. ;o)
>>
>> What I'm really after is information and elucidation as to the direction
>> of this project, that is if it is going anywhere.at all!, along with a show
>> of hands and ideas from any interested parties, commercial or otherwise.
>> Commercial usage could also provide micro-donations toward the cost of
>> the project upkeep, and incentive to those with the knowhow, aka some
>> core developers, to make any necessary amendments and patches.
>>
>> I hope that makes things a little clearer? ;o)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> On 14 September 2014 11:53, Pablo Rodríguez <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> Dear Chris,
>>>
>>> sorry for the late reply.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your work with the wiki.
>>>
>>> To your last question, I’d move the wiki to GitHub if it costs you money
>>> right now.
>>>
>>> I think there is a more relevant issue here. swftools are unactive for
>>> more than a year.
>>>
>>> -Lastest commit in master was from Thu Jul 25 19:49:07 2013 -0700.
>>>
>>> -Lastest message from Matthias to the list was from Wed, 14 Aug 2013
>>> 16:36:56 -0400,
>>>
>>> -In a message to the list from Fri, 2 Aug 2013 16:55:28 -0700, Matthias
>>> states that there is a branch that would replace xpdf with poppler. In
>>> the public git (I have just cloned), there is no other branch than master.
>>>
>>> Sorry if I’m missing something. I’m not a fan of GitHub, but I think it
>>> could help here. At least to track bug reports. Having them in a mailing
>>> list is the best way to forget them.
>>>
>>> Even if the GitHub repository contains no code, it would be useful to
>>> host the wiki and to have the issues organized at one place.
>>>
>>> Just in case it might help, I have just created the swftools
>>> organization there [I can transfer it to anyone who wants to have it, or
>>> I could simply delete it]
>>>
>>> What do you think about this, Chris?
>>>
>>> I hope this helps to clarify the situation.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>>
>>>
>>> Pablo
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 09/13/2014 11:00 AM, RDP wrote:
>>>> Dear All,
>>>>
>>>> The SWFToolls Wiki has been hosted ( and partially maintained ),  by
>>>> myself for a considerable period.  What seemed like a good idea at the
>>>> time, now possibly is no longer.  Changes have to be made, both to
>>>> wiki's location, it's general structure and content, and, more to the
>>>> point, it's actualy survival as a web
>>>> resource.
>>>>
>>>> A few points to note,
>>>>
>>>> - The SWFTools  software suite itself appears to have been put in 
>>>> mothballs, as
>>>>   there have been no updates for a considerable time, last was 9th April 
>>>> 2013
>>>>
>>>> - TheSWFTools does not appear to have forged many, if any, links with other
>>>>   projects from which all could easily, and mutually benefit
>>>>
>>>> - the wiki itsef has also not been updated/amednded in a considerable
>>>> time.  Very
>>>>   poor community spiriiedness.it would appear!  It's simply not a one
>>>> person job!
>>>>
>>>> -  credit should hereby go to one unsung, and very probably hitherto 
>>>> unnoticed
>>>>    wiki user, Cthulhu.fhtagn,
>>>>
>>>>        http://wiki.swftools.org/wiki/User:Cthulhu.fhtagn
>>>>
>>>>    without whose sterling support, very kind assistamce, and time
>>>> mis(spent), the
>>>>    wiki would have been down ages ago due spam, bot, and other such 
>>>> attacks.
>>>>
>>>> So, to all you out there, commercially biased or otherwise, that make 
>>>> profitable
>>>> and personal use of the SWFTools software, and occasioanally this mailing 
>>>> list,
>>>>
>>>> http://wiki.swftools.org/webstats/awstats.pl?config=awstats.wiki.swftools.org.conf
>>>>
>>>> Whare to next, *if* anywhere?  Ditch, dump, or continue to maintain?
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts people.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chris P.
>>>
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