Re: [STUMP] A stumpwm's module

[Scott Jaderholm]

On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Diogo F. S. Ramos <address@hidden> wrote:

Daimrod <address@hidden> writes:

> address@hidden (Diogo F. S. Ramos) writes:
>
>> Max Mikhanosha <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>>> Unfortunately, by doing all this, I couldn't directly access a function
>>>> called `bar', which is not exported by stumpwm, so I had to use `::'. It
>>>> looks like a good symbol to export to me.
>>>
>>> stumpwm export list is IMHO stale, and its impossible to extend it
>>> well without using internal symbols, so I see absolutely no problem with that.
>>
>> Hum, that's unfortunate.
>>
>> I think that a nice set of exported symbols would be nice. Of course,
>> it's much easier said than done.
>
> Maybe we could use the two packages #:stumpwm and #:stuwmpm-user by
> exporting a small set of symbols in #:stumpwm-user required to use and
> configure it and a larger set in #:stumpwm to develop modules with it.
>
> Currently, the #:stuwmpwm-user package doesn't contain any symbols and
> is only used by two modules.
>
> Ofc to minimize the amount of change required we could simply add
> another package like #:stumpwm-dev.

Well, as said earlier, I'm not a maintainer, but I don't see a reason to
divide the symbols in different packages. It might create confusion by
having to decide in which package a symbol should be exported and it's
very likely that a "module" will have to use symbols exported by more
than one package.

I've been making more changes to pavol thanks to the great ideas of
Scott and some bug reports and I didn't had to call stumpwm's internals
more than the `bar' function. Granted, pavol doesn't have even a page of
code, but still.

I've been using this contrib a lot and really like it. On the subject of things not exported from stumpwm: I recommend you change stumpwm:message in pavol.lisp to stumpwm::message-no-timeout. It probably made sense before the switch to its own keymap but now it's easy for the message to disappear while the user is still in the keymap without any indication that something's not normal. I think this change will help there.

Scott