[Savannah-register-public] Re: [task #3833] Submission of Goutte à goutte

[Sylvain Beucler]

Hi,

Would you mind sending me an authenticated request to remove the project?
For example, you could post a comment at:
http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=3833
stating so.

Regards,

-- 
Sylvain

On Sun, May 22, 2005 at 06:45:55PM +0200, Frédéric Vasseur wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> As no one seems to be interested, I suggest you delete the project.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> Fred.
> 
> 
> >From: Sylvain Beucler <address@hidden>
> >To: Frédéric Vasseur <address@hidden>, Sylvain Beucler 
> ><address@hidden>, address@hidden
> >Subject: [task #3833] Submission of Goutte à goutte
> >Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2005 17:05:12 +0000
> >
> >Update of task #3833 (project administration):
> >
> >         Should Start On:                         => Sat 03/05/2005 at 
> >00:00
> >   Should be Finished on:                         => Sat 03/05/2005 at 
> >00:00
> >                  Status:                    None => Cancelled
> >             Assigned to:                    None => Beuc
> >             Open/Closed:                    Open => Closed
> >
> >    _______________________________________________________
> >
> >Follow-up Comment #1:
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I'm evaluating the project you submitted for approval in Savannah.
> >
> >(English is the only language that the whole Savannah team understand and
> >needed for transparency and archival. I will therefore reply in English,
> >although you can send me a private mail in French for precisions)
> >
> >
> >The first problem is that your project relies on proprietary technlogies,
> >Visual Basic and the .Net Framework.
> >
> >It cannot be hosted on Savannah in its current state for this reason.
> >
> >Savannah is willing to provide resources and time to developers writing 
> >Free
> >Software that can be used without the need to ask permission from 
> >proprietary
> >software vendor.
> >
> >
> >The second problem is portability.
> >
> >First, we only host projects that can run on a free operating system (such 
> >as
> >GNU/Linux).
> >
> >(Incidentally, "Linux" is just a kernel of a more complex system that we 
> >like
> >to refer to as GNU/Linux, to emphasize the ideals of the Free Software
> >movement. For more information, see
> >http://www.gnu.org/gnu/linux-and-gnu.html.)
> >
> >We have adopted this policy because now that completely free operating
> >systems exist, we do not want to encourage users of those systems to start
> >using proprietary operating systems so that they can use your program.
> >
> >If you are willing to maintain a version for free operating systems, which
> >work as well as or better than other ports, you can then provide versions 
> >for
> >non-free systems as well.  The idea is that at no point should only-free 
> >users
> >be at a disadvantage compared to users of proprietary software.
> >
> >Your project should always work equally well in free systems as in any 
> >other
> >version you provide; if you have some modules for non-free systems, you can
> >delay their release until you have released the free operating system
> >version.
> >
> >Moreover, the fact you use Visual Basic makes it nearly impossible to make 
> >a
> >port to GNU/Linux. Visual Basic is meant to be used only for MS Windows, no
> >matter how you code with it, and there is no free replacement for it that
> >could be ported to GNU/Linux (although there are .Net framework free
> >replacements, such as DotGNU and Mono, there is no ways to compile VB under
> >GNU/Linux). The only thing that could happen is rather a complete rewrite 
> >for
> >GNU/Linux, making it a double effort to maintain the application 
> >eventually.
> >
> >From my experience, I also can tell that Visual Basic is so much unportable
> >that usually you could not even take a VB4, 5 or 6 application and use it 
> >in
> >any other version of VB.
> >
> >It is better, especially when starting a new development, to use free,
> >non-proprietary technologies from the start, even if you are not familiar
> >with them yet - it will save time after.
> >
> >Free software development environments do exist.
> >"Glade" is a graphical environment to build applications that works with 
> >the
> >"Gtk+" graphical toolkit. Glade can only be used under GNU/Linux, but
> >applications created with it, such as Gaim (gaim.sf.net), run under both
> >GNU/Linux and MS Windows. Gtk+ is meant to be used with the C programming
> >languages, but can be used by other more higher level languages such as
> >Python.
> >
> >wxWindows is another portable graphical toolkit, although I'm not sure it 
> >has
> >a GUI builder.
> >
> >I am not an expert on GUI builders, so maybe you should ask on forums to 
> >get
> >more advices on free software portable GUI builders.
> >
> >
> >Last, there are also some problems with your license.
> >
> >The most important issue in your license is that it doesn't allow 
> >commercial
> >use. Check http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Commercial and
> >http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/selling.html for more information.
> >
> >It is almost always better to use an existing license, than to write your
> >own. By using your own license, you take the risk to run into legal issues,
> >whereas exsisting where written or validated by lawyers.
> >
> >Your license is also in French. For a project distributed on the Internet, 
> >it
> >makes sense to write a license in English. If think you do need a license
> >written in French, you may want to have a look at the CeCILL license, which
> >was written to be conform to the French laws, and is compatible with the 
> >GNU
> >GPL.
> >
> >Requiring to provide a binary along with any distribution of the source 
> >code
> >can be inconvenient as well.
> >
> >There is also some details about sections that cannot be modified in the
> >documentation. In this case, we recommand to give the documentation a 
> >special
> >license, such as the GNU Free Documentation License (GFDL). This is not a 
> >free
> >software license, is incompatible with the GNU GPL, but is perfectly ok for
> >free documentation. Among others, it offers to declare invariants
> >non-technical sections. Check http://www.gnu.org/licenses/licenses.html#FDL
> >
> >
> >So we cannot host your project at Savannah for now. If however you can base
> >your project on free portable technologies and switch to existing licenses
> >such as the GNU GPL or any GPL-compatible licenses such as the GNU LGPL or
> >the Expat license, then please resubmit your project and we will reconsider
> >it for inclusion at Savannah.
> >
> >Regards.
> >
> >
> >    _______________________________________________________
> >
> >This item URL is:
> >
> >  <http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?func=detailitem&item_id=3833>
> >
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