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Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Revisiting hosted wiki software


From: Sylvain Beucler
Subject: Re: [Savannah-hackers-public] Revisiting hosted wiki software
Date: Fri, 2 Jan 2009 22:32:10 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)

Hi,

I don't think there's a problem with RMS (or I don't know about it).
I think the problem is technical, i.e. providing instanciatable wikis
hosting, long term.

Which means choosing a wiki, make it instanciable if not already,
hooks its authenticated and permissions with Savannah's, prevent spam,
keep up with software as well as data updates, etc.

We could also quickly bundle a wiki app from scratch in Savane, at the
risk of a limited experience, which is apparently what Indefero, Trac
and gcode do at the moment. This is reinventing the wheel but this
simplifies the integration. I think SF is using a 3rd-party wiki
software too.

There's also the case of Berlios that setup a single site-wide
mediawiki for simplicity.

So there are several solutions, a few of them require coding, all of
them require long-term maintenance, and all of them require finding
something against spam.

I'm personaly not focused on this at the moment but it could be done
by somebody else.

-- 
Sylvain

On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 08:53:22PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
> On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 03:29:28PM -0500, Nicodemo Alvaro wrote:
> > What would you do with this wiki that would be different from Savannah
> > Maintenance wiki that I believe is open to the public? Are you speaking for
> > just for Savannah itself or all project owners?
> >
> > https://savannah.gnu.org/maintenance/FrontPage
> 
> Sorry, I am speaking as a potential project owner.
> 
> -- 
> Noah Slater, http://tumbolia.org/nslater
> 
On Fri, Jan 02, 2009 at 01:50:52PM +0000, Noah Slater wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I was just browsing around when I rediscovered the FSF Groups wiki:
> 
>   http://groups.fsf.org/
> 
> I was wondering about the possibility of providing a hosted wiki for 
> Savannah. I
> am aware that Stallman is cautious about this because of the possibility of
> linking to or promoting non-free software.
> 
> I spent a bit of time thinking about this and wondered why this was any more 
> of
> an issue on a wiki than a public mailing list, or in fact the existing FSF
> Groups wiki. If someone posted a link to some non-free software on a mailing
> list there is nothing you can do about it, at least with a wiki you are able 
> to
> edit articles to remove the offending material.
> 
> My experience developing CouchDB with a public wiki [1] has convinced me that 
> it
> can be a tremendously powerful tool for collecting and aggregating tips, help,
> advice, and literature about a software project.
> 
> Is there a case we could make to Stallman? If he were to accept, would this be
> technically feasible or desirable by the Savannah hackers?
> 
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/couchdb/




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