Re: [rdiff-backup-users] SafeKeep version 1.4.0 (stable) released

[Dimi Paun]

Hi Matt,

You are correct -- we need to clarify the fact that we don't fork or copy the rdiff-backup codebase.

Just to be clear: we simply call out to your installed version of rdiff-backup. We just provide a simpler, centralized interface to it.
If you look at our RPMs/DEBs, you we'll see that we "Require" the rdiff-backup package.

By way of comparison, safekeep uses rdiff-backup under the hood the same way say gcc used cpp, asm, cc1, ldd to build an executable. 
(this is no longer a valid comparison as gcc now integrates cpp directly instead of calling out to it, but we don't do that for rdiff-backup).

Hope this is a better explanation,
Dimi.

On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 10:02 -0500, Matt Van Mater wrote:
>     I read the pages you mentioned prior to posting and I feel that FAQ entry comparing and contrasting would be useful.
>     
>     Do you plan on maintaining a parallel code base in the event rdiffbackup development resumes? Or will you integrate the two?
>     
>     On Feb 18, 2012 9:09 AM, "Frank Crawford" <address@hidden> wrote:
> >         Matt,
> >         
> >         I think you have a misconception about what SafeKeep is, it is a simplified interface to rdiff-backup, not a replacement.  It simplifies such tasks as key deployment, snapshotting (yes, even if bound to a particular volume manager) and just plain running of backups.
> >         
> >         For more details on what it does, have a look at our home page (http://safekeep.sourceforge.net) and in particular the motivation page (http://safekeep.sourceforge.net/motivation.shtml).
> >         
> >         Regards
> >         Frank
> >         
> >         On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 08:40 -0500, Matt Van Mater wrote:
> > >             OK, So you're missing one key FAQ item:
> > >             
> > >             How does your software differ from rdiff-backup?  A compare and contrast page would be nice.
> > >             
> > >             The only thing i really saw of significance was the use of LVM for snapshotting... that's not a feature to me, in fact it feels more like reinventing the wheel and that's lock-in to a particular file system.
> > >             
> > >             Tell me how you do it better (e.g. faster, more reliably, etc)!
> > >             
> > >             On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Frank Crawford <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > >                 This is release 1.4.0 of SafeKeep, a centralized and easy to use
> > > >                 backup application that combines the best features of a mirror
> > > >                 and an incremental backup.
> > > >                 
> > > >                 What's new in this release:
> > > >                  - Add the ability to store script files on either client or server.
> > > >                  - Rewritten snapshot creation to remove use of "rbind".
> > > >                  - Automatic cleanup on next run after an abort.
> > > >                  - Support of LVM tagging for snapshots.
> > > >                  - Better handling of messages and tracebacks.
> > > >                  - A number of other code cleanups and bug fixes.
> > > >                  - Updated minimum Python support to Python 2.3.
> > > >                 
> > > >                 Many thanks to Andres Toomsalu, Ken Bass, Joe Steele and Alexander List
> > > >                 for the fixes that made this release possible, and to Dimi Paun for his
> > > >                 continual work with SafeKeep.
> > > >                 
> > > >                 Sources and binaries are available from the following locations:
> > > >                 
> > > >                  - RedHat EL/CentOS 4,5,6 Fedora 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16:
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-common-1.4.0-1.noarch.rpm
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-client-1.4.0-1.noarch.rpm
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-server-1.4.0-1.noarch.rpm
> > > >                 
> > > >                  - Ubuntu Dapper, Breezy, Hardy, Lucid, Maverick, Natty, Oneiric and Precise:
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-common_1.4.0_all.deb
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-client_1.4.0_all.deb
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-server_1.4.0_all.deb
> > > >                 
> > > >                 Note: The Debian packages are not yet available.  They should be uploaded within
> > > >                 the next few days.
> > > >                 
> > > >                  - Source:
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-1.4.0.tar.gz
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/safekeep-1.4.0-1.src.rpm
> > > >                 
> > > >                 The GPG Signing Key can be found in the following location:
> > > >                 
> > > >                  http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/safekeep/RPM-GPG-KEY-SafeKeep
> > > >                 
> > > >                 with fingerprint:
> > > >                 
> > > >                 pub   1024D/4E1CD0E5 2012-02-17
> > > >                      Key fingerprint = B051 E099 25D1 CE50 54DF  227D 96FC 24AC 4E1C D0E5
> > > >                 uid                  SafeKeep (Signing Key) <address@hidden>
> > > >                 sub   1024g/6AA3270F 2012-02-17
> > > >                 
> > > >                 NOTE: The minimum version of Python now supported is Python 2.3.  If you
> > > >                 require support of an older version of Python, then you should select an
> > > >                 earlier release of Safekeep.
> > > >                 
> > > >                 To find out more about the project visit on our website:
> > > >                  http://safekeep.sourceforge.net
> > > >                 
> > > >                 --
> > > >                 Frank Crawford <address@hidden>
> > > >                 for Dimi Paun <address@hidden>
> > > >                 Lattica, Inc.
> > > >                 
> > > >                 
> > > >                 
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