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Re: [rdiff-backup-users] SafeKeep version 1.4.0 (stable) released

From: Dimi Paun
Subject: Re: [rdiff-backup-users] SafeKeep version 1.4.0 (stable) released
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 10:31:51 -0500

Hi Matt,

You are correct -- we need to clarify the fact that we don't fork or copy the rdiff-backup codebase.

Just to be clear: we simply call out to your installed version of rdiff-backup. We just provide a simpler, centralized interface to it.
If you look at our RPMs/DEBs, you we'll see that we "Require" the rdiff-backup package.

By way of comparison, safekeep uses rdiff-backup under the hood the same way say gcc used cpp, asm, cc1, ldd to build an executable.
(this is no longer a valid comparison as gcc now integrates cpp directly instead of calling out to it, but we don't do that for rdiff-backup).

Hope this is a better explanation,

On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 10:02 -0500, Matt Van Mater wrote:
I read the pages you mentioned prior to posting and I feel that FAQ entry comparing and contrasting would be useful.

Do you plan on maintaining a parallel code base in the event rdiffbackup development resumes? Or will you integrate the two?

On Feb 18, 2012 9:09 AM, "Frank Crawford" <address@hidden> wrote:

I think you have a misconception about what SafeKeep is, it is a simplified interface to rdiff-backup, not a replacement.  It simplifies such tasks as key deployment, snapshotting (yes, even if bound to a particular volume manager) and just plain running of backups.

For more details on what it does, have a look at our home page (http://safekeep.sourceforge.net) and in particular the motivation page (http://safekeep.sourceforge.net/motivation.shtml).


On Sat, 2012-02-18 at 08:40 -0500, Matt Van Mater wrote:
OK, So you're missing one key FAQ item:

How does your software differ from rdiff-backup?  A compare and contrast page would be nice.

The only thing i really saw of significance was the use of LVM for snapshotting... that's not a feature to me, in fact it feels more like reinventing the wheel and that's lock-in to a particular file system.

Tell me how you do it better (e.g. faster, more reliably, etc)!

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:06 AM, Frank Crawford <address@hidden> wrote:
This is release 1.4.0 of SafeKeep, a centralized and easy to use
backup application that combines the best features of a mirror
and an incremental backup.

What's new in this release:
 - Add the ability to store script files on either client or server.
 - Rewritten snapshot creation to remove use of "rbind".
 - Automatic cleanup on next run after an abort.
 - Support of LVM tagging for snapshots.
 - Better handling of messages and tracebacks.
 - A number of other code cleanups and bug fixes.
 - Updated minimum Python support to Python 2.3.

Many thanks to Andres Toomsalu, Ken Bass, Joe Steele and Alexander List
for the fixes that made this release possible, and to Dimi Paun for his
continual work with SafeKeep.

Sources and binaries are available from the following locations:

 - RedHat EL/CentOS 4,5,6 Fedora 8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16:

 - Ubuntu Dapper, Breezy, Hardy, Lucid, Maverick, Natty, Oneiric and Precise:

Note: The Debian packages are not yet available.  They should be uploaded within
the next few days.

 - Source:

The GPG Signing Key can be found in the following location:


with fingerprint:

pub   1024D/4E1CD0E5 2012-02-17
     Key fingerprint = B051 E099 25D1 CE50 54DF  227D 96FC 24AC 4E1C D0E5
uid                  SafeKeep (Signing Key) <address@hidden>
sub   1024g/6AA3270F 2012-02-17

NOTE: The minimum version of Python now supported is Python 2.3.  If you
require support of an older version of Python, then you should select an
earlier release of Safekeep.

To find out more about the project visit on our website:

Frank Crawford <address@hidden>
for Dimi Paun <address@hidden>
Lattica, Inc.

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