Re: [Ranger-users] A new approach to build the user interface of the future!

[Miodrag Milic]

>Hey Miodrag, got any idea what to do with all the keys that are unused now?

YES.

You should bind those to some great applications and sites needed by everyone like thunderbird, minecraft, facebook ...

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 1:16 AM, Cédric Picard <address@hidden> wrote:

I think the least would be to print a big red warning message
explaining why typing on a key alone should be deprecated.

Or print an ascii punny per key. That could be fun. Like a child's
mode. « Son, when you are old enough, I'll teach you the Meta key.
Right now, play with the punnies. »

On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 01:07:43AM +0200, hut wrote:
> Hey Miodrag, got any idea what to do with all the keys that are unused now?
>
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 12:54:02AM +0200, Miodrag Milic wrote:
> > Nobody is being sarcastic here !
> >
> > The change is already well documented (great work hut as always, cheers)
> > RTFM and start testing ASAP, don't wait for free treatment, just buy some
> > B6  <http://goo.gl/0Jxut7>and you are ready to go !
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 12:40 AM, Gerald Klein <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > > What is the change?? Without the sarcasm
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 5:15 PM, feel.squally <address@hidden>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> With vim key bindings for scrolling down along the files in a directory
> > >> you just need one finger typing j.
> > >>
> > >> I guess with emacs you need C+n that implies TWO fingers.
> > >>
> > >> Also, if this change is about a concern of freedom, is there the FREEDOM
> > >> to choose between vim and emacs key bindings like tmux does?
> > >> If so, I am happy with this change otherwise I think ranger will lose
> > >> users pretty soon.
> > >> Il 31/mar/2015 22:52 "Miodrag Milic" <address@hidden> ha
> > >> scritto:
> > >>
> > >>> > Imagine a text editor where you can just type in some keys, and they
> > >>> appear on
> > >>> the screen.  Just like that.
> > >>>
> > >>> OMG, I didn't even know such thing exists!!!! PLEASE!!!
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Gerald Klein <address@hidden> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> Can someone please tell if this is a joke, I'm serious I can't tell?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 3:20 PM, hut <address@hidden> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> So, ranger has been around for almost 6 years, and after all this time
> > >>>>> of
> > >>>>> optimizing and re-evaluating, I think we need a paradigm shift in the
> > >>>>> way
> > >>>>> ranger works.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> There are going to be a few changes starting with the upcoming 1.7.0
> > >>>>> release
> > >>>>> which can be tested now already by running the current git version:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>   git clone https://github.com/hut/ranger.git -b current
> > >>>>>   cd ranger
> > >>>>>   ./ranger.py
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I sincerely believe now that trying to copy the vim user experience
> > >>>>> was wrong
> > >>>>> on many levels, because clearly emacs is the better editor.  It's
> > >>>>> build on the
> > >>>>> idea of freedom, of elegance and of having to press modifier keys all
> > >>>>> the time.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> If that doesn't convince you yet, how about this:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Imagine a text editor where you can just type in some keys, and they
> > >>>>> appear on
> > >>>>> the screen.  Just like that.  No silly modes, no crazy things
> > >>>>> happening by
> > >>>>> typing random characters on the keyboard (think ggdGZZ, it deletes
> > >>>>> your whole
> > >>>>> text, then saves the file and quits the editor!  How crazy is that?!)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> No.  Using Emacs key bindings is the only sane way to do it.  Check
> > >>>>> out the
> > >>>>> new key bindings on the man page:
> > >>>>> http://ranger.nongnu.org/ranger.1.html
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Of course ranger has no concept of "typing in text" like emacs does,
> > >>>>> so typing
> > >>>>> in keys without modifiers will do nothing at all.  Basically you will
> > >>>>> have to
> > >>>>> use modifier keys for everything you do.  But still it's obviously
> > >>>>> better than
> > >>>>> vim-like key bindings.  ***BONUS*** The first 100 to upgrade will get
> > >>>>> a free
> > >>>>> treatment for their future carpal tunnel syndrome!
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Regards,
> > >>>>> hut
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> --
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Gerald Klein DBA
> > >>>>
> > >>>> address@hidden
> > >>>>
> > >>>> www.geraldklein.com <http://geraldklein.com/>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> geraldklein.wordpress.com
> > >>>>
> > >>>> address@hidden
> > >>>>
> > >>>> 708-599-0352
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Arch, Gentoo I3, Ranger & Vim the coding triple threat.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Linux registered user #548580
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Brought to you by the Amish Mafia
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Gerald Klein DBA
> > >
> > > address@hidden
> > >
> > > www.geraldklein.com <http://geraldklein.com/>
> > >
> > > geraldklein.wordpress.com
> > >
> > > address@hidden
> > >
> > > 708-599-0352
> > >
> > >
> > > Arch, Gentoo I3, Ranger & Vim the coding triple threat.
> > >
> > > Linux registered user #548580
> > >
> > > Brought to you by the Amish Mafia
> > >
> > >
>

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