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Re: [Qemu-ppc] Qemu boot device precedence over nvram boot-device settin


From: Gleb Natapov
Subject: Re: [Qemu-ppc] Qemu boot device precedence over nvram boot-device setting
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 12:13:05 +0200

On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 03:35:53PM +0530, Nikunj A Dadhania wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:51:36 +0200, Gleb Natapov <address@hidden> wrote:
> > On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 11:33:31AM +0200, Alexander Graf wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 27.09.2012, at 11:29, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Thu, 2012-09-27 at 14:51 +0530, Avik Sil wrote:
> > > >> Hi,
> > > >> 
> > > >> We would like to get a method to boot from devices provided in -boot 
> > > >> arguments in qemu when the 'boot-device' is set in nvram for pseries 
> > > >> machine. I mean the boot device specified in -boot should get a 
> > > >> precedence over the 'boot-device' specified in nvram.
> > > >> 
> > > >> At the same time, when -boot is not provided, i.e., the default boot 
> > > >> order "cad" is present, the device specified in nvram 'boot-device' 
> > > >> should get precedence if it is set.
> > > >> 
> > > >> What should be the elegant way to implement this requirement? 
> > > >> Suggestions welcome.
> > > > 
> > > > Actually I think it's a more open question. We have essentially two
> > > > things at play here:
> > > > 
> > > > - With the new nvram model, the firmware can store a boot device
> > > > reference in it, which is standard OF practice, and in fact the various
> > > > distro installers are going to do just that
> > > > 
> > > > - Qemu has its own boot order thingy via -boot, which we loosely
> > > > translate as c = first bootable disk we find (actually first disk we
> > > > find, we should probably make the algorithm a bit smarter), d = first
> > > > cdrom we find, n = network , ... We pass that selection (boot list) down
> > > > to SLOF via a device-tree property.
> > > > 
> > > > The question is thus what precedence should we give them. I was
> > > > initially thinking that an explicit qemu boot list should override the
> > > > firmware nvram setting but I'm now not that sure anymore.
> > > > 
> > > > The -boot list is at best a "blurry" indication of what type of device
> > > > the user wants ... The firmware setting in nvram is precise.
> > > 
> > > IIRC gleb had implemented a specific boot order thing. Gleb, mind to 
> > > enlighten us? :)
> > > 
> > Yes, forget about -boot. It is deprecated :) You should use bootindex
> > (device property) to set boot priority. It constructs OF device path
> > and passes it to firmware. 
> 
> If the user does not set bootindex, qemu would decide the bootindex?  
> 
No. Firmware decides. QEMU just tells to firmware that it does not have
bootindex.

> If it does, there will be a default bootindex. Then the problem still
> remains, qemu decided the boot-order, in which case we would want to
> pick the nvram based setting. This is again difficult to distinguish.
> 
> > There is nothing "blurry" about OF device
> > path. The problem is that it works reasonably well with legacy BIOS
> > since it is enough to specify device to boot from, but with EFI (OF is
> > the same I guess) it is not enough to point to a device to boot from,
> > but you also need to specify a file you want to boot and this is where
> > bootindex approach fails.
> 
> By file I suppose you mean OF device-path. 
> 
No. By file I mean a file on dedicated EFI FAT partition that EFI loads
during boot.  I do not know if OF has something similar.

> > > 
> > > I think the command line should override anything user specified. So 
> > > basically:
> > > 
> > >   * user defined -boot option (or bootindex magic from Gleb)
> > >   * nvram
> > >   * fallback to default
> > > 
> 
> Regards
> Nikunj

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                        Gleb.



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