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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio-net: do not start queues that are not en


From: Michael S. Tsirkin
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] virtio-net: do not start queues that are not enabled by the guest
Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2019 23:22:03 -0500

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 10:10:08PM -0500, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 22, 2019 at 11:04:05AM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > 
> > On 2019/2/22 上午9:35, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > > On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 05:40:22PM +0800, Jason Wang wrote:
> > > > On 2019/2/21 下午4:18, Yuri Benditovich wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >          For 1.0 device, we can fix the queue_enable, but for 0.9x 
> > > > device how do
> > > >          you enable one specific queue in this case? (setting status?)
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >      Do I understand correctly that for 0.9 device in some cases the 
> > > > device will
> > > >      receive feature _MQ set, but will not receive 
> > > > VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET?
> > > >      Or the problem is different?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Let me clarify, VIRTIO_NET_CTRL_MQ_VQ_PAIRS_SET is used to control the 
> > > > the
> > > > number of queue pairs used by device for doing transmission and 
> > > > reception. It
> > > > was not used to enable or disable a virtqueue.
> > > > 
> > > > For 1.0 device, we should use queue_enable in pci cfg to enable and 
> > > > disable
> > > > queue:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > We could do:
> > > > 
> > > > 1) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq0
> > > > 
> > > > 2) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq1
> > > > 
> > > > 3) Set vq paris to 1
> > > > 
> > > > 4) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq2
> > > > 
> > > > 5) allocate memory and set queue_enable for vq3
> > > > 
> > > > 6) set vq pairs to 2
> > > 
> > > I do not think spec allows this.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > The driver MUST follow this sequence to initialize a device:
> > > 1. Reset the device.
> > > 2. Set the ACKNOWLEDGE status bit: the guest OS has noticed the device.
> > > 3. Set the DRIVER status bit: the guest OS knows how to drive the device.
> > > 4. Read device feature bits, and write the subset of feature bits 
> > > understood by the OS and driver to the
> > > device. During this step the driver MAY read (but MUST NOT write) the 
> > > device-specific configuration
> > > fields to check that it can support the device before accepting it.
> > > 5. Set the FEATURES_OK status bit. The driver MUST NOT accept new feature 
> > > bits after this step.
> > > 6. Re-read device status to ensure the FEATURES_OK bit is still set: 
> > > otherwise, the device does not
> > > support our subset of features and the device is unusable.
> > > 7. Perform device-specific setup, including discovery of virtqueues for 
> > > the device, optional per-bus setup,
> > > reading and possibly writing the device’s virtio configuration space, and 
> > > population of virtqueues.
> > > 8. Set the DRIVER_OK status bit. At this point the device is “live”.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thus vqs are setup at step 7.
> > > 
> > > # of vq pairs are set up through a command which is a special
> > > buffer, and spec says:
> > > 
> > > The driver MUST NOT send any buffer available notifications to the device 
> > > before setting DRIVER_OK.
> > 
> > 
> > So you meant write to queue_enable is forbidden after DRIVER_OK (though it's
> > not very clear to me from the  spec). And if a driver want to enable new
> > queues, it must reset the device?
> 
> 
> That's my reading.  What do you think?

Btw some legacy drivers might violate this by addig buffers
before driver_ok.

> 
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > But this requires a proper implementation for queue_enable for vhost 
> > > > which is
> > > > missed in qemu and probably what you really want to do.
> > > > 
> > > > but for 0.9x device, there's no such way to do this. That's the issue.
> > > 0.9x there's no queue enable, assumption is PA!=0 means VQ has
> > > been enabled.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > So
> > > > driver must allocate all queBes before starting the device, otherwise 
> > > > there's
> > > > no way to enable it afterwards.
> > > 
> > > As per spec queues must be allocated before DRIVER_OK.
> > > 
> > > That is universal.
> > 
> > 
> > If I understand correctly, this is not what is done by current windows
> > drivers.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > > There're tricks to make it work like what is
> > > > done in your patch, but it depends on a specific implementation like 
> > > > qemu which
> > > > is sub-optimal.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >          A fundamental question is what prevents you from just 
> > > > initialization all
> > > >          queues during driver start? It looks to me this save lots of 
> > > > efforts
> > > >          than allocating queue dynamically.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >      This is not so trivial in Windows driver, as it does not have 
> > > > objects for queues
> > > >      that it does not use. Linux driver first of all allocates all the
> > > >      queues and then
> > > >      adds Rx/Tx to those it will use. Windows driver first decides how 
> > > > many queues
> > > >      it will use then allocates objects for them and initializes them 
> > > > from zero to
> > > >      fully functional state.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Well, you just need to allocate some memory for the virtqueue, there's 
> > > > no need
> > > > to make it visible to the rest until it was enabled.
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 



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