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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] s390x/css: fix incorrect length indication


From: Halil Pasic
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] s390x/css: fix incorrect length indication
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 19:19:56 +0200
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On 09/12/2017 05:59 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:43:03 +0200
> Halil Pasic <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
>> On 09/12/2017 04:37 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
>>> On Mon, 11 Sep 2017 13:36:29 +0200
>>> Halil Pasic <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> On 09/11/2017 12:07 PM, Cornelia Huck wrote:  
>>>>> On Fri,  8 Sep 2017 17:24:46 +0200
>>>>> Halil Pasic <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>>     
>>>>>> We report incorrect length via SCSW program check instead of incorrect
>>>>>> length check (SCWS word 2 bit 10 instead of bit 9). Since we have there
>>>>>> is no fitting errno for incorrect length, and since I don't like what we
>>>>>> do with the errno's, as part of the fix, errnos used for control flow in
>>>>>> ccw interpretation are replaced with an enum using more speaking names.  
>>>>>>   
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure whether this is the way to go. I mainly dislike the size
>>>>> of the patch (and the fact that it mixes a fix and a change of function
>>>>> signature).    
>>>>
>>>> Do you agree that we should move away from POSIX errno codes? I think
>>>> if we do, this cant' get much smaller.  
>>>
>>> I'm not really a fan of defining our own return values, tbh.
>>>   
>>
>> I've suspected. But your statement, although being useful, does
>> not answer my question. I think we need to agree on this question
>> before proceeding.
>>
>> In my opinion both the EIO bug and this bug are great examples
>> why the POSIX errno codes are sub-optimal and misleading, but
>> that's my opinion.
> 
> It depends. I prefer them over home-grown ones.
> 
> (And I tend to dislike absolute statements.)
> 

Ah, we may have a misunderstanding here. POSIX errno codes are great
if they are used for what they are supposed to. The context was meant
to be implicitly included in the statement limiting it's scope.

Other than spotting a possible misunderstanding (I hope I did
not misunderstand what do you mean by absolute statements myself) this
did not bring me any further.

>>
>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we instead choose a mapping for incorrect length, and defer a
>>>>> possible rework?
>>>>>     
>>>>
>>>> In the commit message, I say that I don't have a fitting errno.
>>>> If you tell me which one to use, I would be glad to split this up.
>>>> I don't like mixing re-factoring and changing behavior myself.
>>>>
>>>> Can I have your position on the re-factoring (that is let us
>>>> imagine I did not change handling for incorrect length)?  
>>>
>>> If there is no return code that can be made to fit, we probably won't
>>> be able to get around some kind of refactoring... but then I'd prefer
>>> to do the refactoring first and the fix second.
>>>   
>>
>> That is a can do. I dislike refactoring known bugs, because fixing
>> bugs is usually higher priority than making the code nicer, or even
>> marginally faster. (Btw I found these while trying to refactor.)
>> This however is a weak principle of mine and can be easily overpowered
>> by a maintainer request for example.
> 
> If a good fix requires refactoring, I'd prefer to do the refactoring
> first. I'd prefer an ugly fix first only for serious issues (and I
> don't think that one counts as one.)
> 

Agree, this isn't a serous issue -- I've even asked Viktor M. should
I care about it before doing this patch: along the lines do we care about
adhering to the architecture spec. if our guests are agnostic about the
difference/divergence.

>>>>>> For virtio, if incorrect length checking is suppressed we keep the
>>>>>> current behavior (channel-program check).    
>>>>>
>>>>> Confused. If it is suppressed, there should not be an error, no?    
>>>>
>>>> No.
>>>>
>>>> From VIRTIO 1.0 4.3.1.2  Device Requirements: Basic Concepts
>>>>
>>>> "If a driver did suppress length checks for a channel command, the device
>>>> MUST present a check condition if the transmitted data does not contain
>>>> enough data to process the command."
>>>> (http://docs.oasis-open.org/virtio/virtio/v1.0/cs04/virtio-v1.0-cs04.html#x1-1230001)
>>>>
>>>> So for virtio we have to present a check condition. Architecturally it
>>>> might look better if the one refusing is the device and not the CSS, but
>>>> for that we would have to change the VIRTIO spec. With the given
>>>> constraints a program check is IMHO the best fit.  
>>>
>>> Ah, but that's not general length checking for virtio-ccw :)  
>>
>> What is general length checking for virtio-ccw? Did I say it
>> was general length checking for virtio-ccw?
> 
> Hm? Generally, suppressing is supposed to allow incorrect length
> specifications. For virtio-ccw, that only applies to 'too much' and not
> 'not enough'.
> 
> Also, reading the statement in the spec: It only talks about a 'check
> condition', not _which_ one - so there's no requirement to keep a
> channel-program check (other than possibly confusing guests)?
> 
.
You are right, and I was wrong. We could also present an unit-check
(that's also check  -- and is the only one in device status. The spec
even says the 'device must present', although I device is in virtio sense
and not in PoP sense here, and does not use 'present subchannel status'
as in the previous sentence.  For a unit check I would have expected the
some sense bit specified to though (like it's specified that under
certain conditions we have to do an unit check with a command reject
(that is sense bit 0). What shall we do in your opinion?




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