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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Postcopy: Force allocation of all-zero prec


From: Christian Borntraeger
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/2] Postcopy: Force allocation of all-zero precopy pages
Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2017 08:44:03 +0200
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On 04/27/2017 05:20 AM, Peter Xu wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 09:37:43PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 26, 2017 at 08:04:43PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
>>> * Christian Borntraeger (address@hidden) wrote:
>>>> On 04/26/2017 08:37 PM, Dr. David Alan Gilbert (git) wrote:
>>>>> From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <address@hidden>
>>>>>
>>>>> When an all-zero page is received during the precopy
>>>>> phase of a postcopy-enabled migration we must force
>>>>> allocation otherwise accesses to the page will still
>>>>> get blocked by userfault.
>>>>>
>>>>> Symptom:
>>>>>   a) If the page is accessed by a device during device-load
>>>>>     then we get a deadlock as the source finishes sending
>>>>>     all its pages but the destination device-load is still
>>>>>     paused and so doesn't clean up.
>>>>>
>>>>>   b) If the page is accessed later, then the thread will stay
>>>>>     paused until the end of migration rather than carrying on
>>>>>     running, until we release userfault at the end.
>>>>>
>>>>> Signed-off-by: Dr. David Alan Gilbert <address@hidden>
>>>>> Reported-by: Christian Borntraeger <address@hidden>
>>>>
>>>> CC stable? after all the guest hangs on both sides
>>>>
>>>> Has survived 40 migrations (usually failed at the 2nd)
>>>> Tested-by: Christian Borntraeger <address@hidden>
>>>
>>> Great...but.....
>>> Andrea (added to the mail) says this shouldn't be necessary.
>>> The read we were doing in the is_zero_range() should have been sufficient
>>> to get the page mapped and that zero page should have survived.
>>>
>>> So - I guess that's back a step, we need to figure out why the
>>> page disapepars for you.
>>
>> Yes reading during precopy is enough to fill the hole and prevent
>> userfault missing faults to trigger.
>>
>> Somehow the pagetable must be mapped by a zeropage or a hugezeropage
>> or a regular page allocated during a previous precopy pass or a
>> pre-zeroed subpage part of a THP.
>>
>> Even if the hugezeropage is splitted later by a MADV_DONTNEED with
>> postcopy starts, they will become 4k zeropages.
>>
>> After a read succeeds, nothing (except MADV_DONTNEED or other explicit
>> syscalls which qemu would need to invoke explicitly between
>> is_zero_range and UFFDIO_REGISTER) should be able to bring the
>> pagetable back to its "pte_none/pmd_none" state that will then trigger
>> missing userfaults during postcopy later.

I have started instrumenting the kernel. I can see a set_pte_at for this address
and I see an (to be understood) invalidation shortly after that which explains
why I get a fault.
> 
> No matter what finally the solution would be (after see Juan's
> comment, I am curious about whether is_zero_page() behaves differently
> in power now)... Dave, would it worth mentioning in

s390 is not power. :-)

And we fall back to the normal buffer_zero_int which reads.

> ram_handle_compressed() about this read side-effect? Otherwise imho it
> might be hard for many people to quickly notice this.




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