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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v12 2/2] docs: Add a generic loader explanation


From: Alistair Francis
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v12 2/2] docs: Add a generic loader explanation document
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2016 14:31:39 -0700

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 12:44 AM, Markus Armbruster <address@hidden> wrote:
> Alistair Francis <address@hidden> writes:
>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2016 at 12:56 AM, Markus Armbruster <address@hidden> wrote:
>>> Alistair Francis <address@hidden> writes:
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 10:36 PM, Markus Armbruster <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>> Alistair Francis <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 2:24 AM, Markus Armbruster <address@hidden> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Alistair Francis <address@hidden> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Signed-off-by: Alistair Francis <address@hidden>
>>>>>>>> Reviewed-by: Peter Maydell <address@hidden>
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> V11:
>>>>>>>>  - Fix corrections
>>>>>>>> V10:
>>>>>>>>  - Split the data loading and PC setting
>>>>>>>> V9:
>>>>>>>>  - Clarify the image loading options
>>>>>>>> V8:
>>>>>>>>  - Improve documentation
>>>>>>>> V6:
>>>>>>>>  - Fixup documentation
>>>>>>>> V4:
>>>>>>>>  - Re-write to be more comprehensive
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  docs/generic-loader.txt | 81 
>>>>>>>> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>>>>>>>  1 file changed, 81 insertions(+)
>>>>>>>>  create mode 100644 docs/generic-loader.txt
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> diff --git a/docs/generic-loader.txt b/docs/generic-loader.txt
>>>>>>>> new file mode 100644
>>>>>>>> index 0000000..d1f8ce3
>>>>>>>> --- /dev/null
>>>>>>>> +++ b/docs/generic-loader.txt
>>>>>>>> @@ -0,0 +1,81 @@
>>>>>>>> +Copyright (c) 2016 Xilinx Inc.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +This work is licensed under the terms of the GNU GPL, version 2 or 
>>>>>>>> later.  See
>>>>>>>> +the COPYING file in the top-level directory.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +The 'loader' device allows the user to load multiple images or values 
>>>>>>>> into
>>>>>>>> +QEMU at startup.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +Loading Data into Memory Values
>>>>>>>> +---------------------
>>>>>>>> +The loader device allows memory values to be set from the command 
>>>>>>>> line. This
>>>>>>>> +can be done by following the syntax below:
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +     -device loader,addr=<addr>,data=<data>,data-len=<data-len>
>>>>>>>> +                   [,data-be=<data-be>][,cpu-num=<cpu-num>]
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +    <addr>      - The address to store the data in.
>>>>>>>> +    <data>      - The value to be written to the address. The maximum 
>>>>>>>> size of
>>>>>>>> +                  the data is 8 bytes.
>>>>>>>> +    <data-len>  - The length of the data in bytes. This argument must 
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>> +                  included if the data argument is.
>>>>>>>> +    <data-be>   - Set to true if the data to be stored on the guest 
>>>>>>>> should be
>>>>>>>> +                  written as big endian data. The default is to write 
>>>>>>>> little
>>>>>>>> +                  endian data.
>>>>>>>> +    <cpu-num>   - The number of the CPU's address space where the 
>>>>>>>> data should
>>>>>>>> +                  be loaded. If not specified the address space of 
>>>>>>>> the first
>>>>>>>> +                  CPU is used.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +For all values both hex and decimal values are allowed. By default 
>>>>>>>> the values
>>>>>>>> +will be parsed as decimal. To use hex values the user should prefix 
>>>>>>>> the number
>>>>>>>> +with a '0x'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unless you bypassed QemuOpts number parsing somehow, octal works as
>>>>>>> well.  In case you did bypass: don't!  Command line consistency matters.
>>>>>>> Follow-up patch reverting the bypass would be required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not sure we want to document QemuOpts number syntax everywhere we
>>>>>>> explain how a certain feature uses the command line.  A pointer to the
>>>>>>> canonical place could be better.  Anyway, not something that needs
>>>>>>> fixing before we commit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I didn't bypass it, octal should work as well. I have clarified that a
>>>>>> bit in the doc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +An example of loading value 0x8000000e to address 0xfd1a0104 is:
>>>>>>>> +    -device loader,addr=0xfd1a0104,data=0x8000000e,data-len=4
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +Setting a CPU's Program Counter
>>>>>>>> +---------------------
>>>>>>>> +The loader device allows the CPU's PC to be set from the command 
>>>>>>>> line. This
>>>>>>>> +can be done by following the syntax below:
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +     -device loader,addr=<addr>,cpu-num=<cpu-num>
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +    <addr>      - The value to use as the CPU's PC.
>>>>>>>> +    <cpu-num>   - The number of the CPU whose PC should be set to the
>>>>>>>> +                  specified value.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +For all values both hex and decimal values are allowed. By default 
>>>>>>>> the values
>>>>>>>> +will be parsed as decimal. To use hex values the user should prefix 
>>>>>>>> the number
>>>>>>>> +with a '0x'.
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +An example of setting CPU 0's PC to 0x8000 is:
>>>>>>>> +    -device loader,addr=0x8000,cpu-num=0
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +Loading Files
>>>>>>>> +---------------------
>>>>>>>> +The loader device also allows files to be loaded into memory. This 
>>>>>>>> can be done
>>>>>>>> +similarly to setting memory values. The syntax is shown below:
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +    -device 
>>>>>>>> loader,file=<file>[,addr=<addr>][,cpu-num=<cpu-num>][,force-raw=<raw>]
>>>>>>>> +
>>>>>>>> +    <file>      - A file to be loaded into memory
>>>>>>>> +    <addr>      - The addr in memory that the file should be loaded. 
>>>>>>>> This is
>>>>>>>> +                  ignored if you are using an ELF (unless force-raw 
>>>>>>>> is true).
>>>>>>>> +                  This is required if you aren't loading an ELF.
>>>>>>>> +    <cpu-num>   - This specifies the CPU that should be used. This is 
>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>> +                  optional argument and will cause the CPU's PC to be 
>>>>>>>> set to
>>>>>>>> +                  where the image is stored or in the case of an ELF 
>>>>>>>> file to
>>>>>>>> +                  the value in the header. This option should only be 
>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>> +                  for the boot image.
>>>>>>>> +                  This will also cause the image to be written to the 
>>>>>>>> specified
>>>>>>>> +                  CPU's address space. If not specified, the default 
>>>>>>>> is CPU 0.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using @cpu-num both for further specifying the meaning of @addr and for
>>>>>>> setting that CPU's PC is awkward.  Are you sure there will never be a
>>>>>>> use case where you need to specify the CPU without also setting its PC?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> To be clear: while I feel this is a question we must discuss and
>>>>>>> resolve, I don't think we need to hold the series for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I agree that this can occur. Internally in the loader framework is a
>>>>>> set_pc variable.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the future we can make this user accessible and then allow that to
>>>>>> decide if the PC should be set or not.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you can't do it right away, please document it as restriction, and
>>>>> add a TODO comment to lift it.
>>>>
>>>> I have a patch that adds known restrictions.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> +    <force-raw> - Forces the file to be treated as a raw image. This 
>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>>> +                  used to specify the load address of ELF files.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Specifying the load address of an ELF file" sounds like loading a
>>>>>>> position-independent ELF file at a particular address.  But I guess this
>>>>>>> is actually for loading a file raw even though it is recognized by QEMU
>>>>>>> as ELF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This option basically does make an ELF file position-independent as
>>>>>> the user can control where it is loaded.
>>>>>
>>>>> Aha.  Then the name "force-raw" is confusing.
>>>>
>>>> I disagree. It tells QEMU to treat the image as just a dumb blob,
>>>> instead of loading it as and ELF file. I thin force-raw makes sense as
>>>> the user is telling QEMU that the image should be treated as a raw
>>>> image, no matter what it actually is.
>>>
>>> I'm still confused then.
>>>
>>> I can see two possible features here, and based on your documentation
>>> and commentary, I can't tell which one you implemented:
>>>
>>> 0. QEMU can load raw files and ELF executable files.  Raw files are
>>> loaded verbatim at a the specified address.  ELF executable files are
>>> loaded by an ELF loader, which loads the program header table's loadable
>>> segments.
>>>
>>> 1. force-raw overrides the ELF detection, to let you load an ELF
>>> executable file verbatim, as if it was raw.
>>
>> This is what the option does. It forces the image to be treated as a raw 
>> image.
>
> Okay, makes sense now.
>
>> I'm sorry if I implied it was option 2 instead.
>
> No problem.  Suggest to clarify docs/generic-loader.txt, perhaps like
> this:

Too easy. I sent a V3 of my docs updating patch which fixes this.

It's called: docs/generic-loader: Update the document

Thanks,

Alistair

>
>     Loading Files
>     -------------
>
>     The loader device also allows files to be loaded into memory.  It
>     can load raw files and ELF executable files.  Raw files are loaded
>     verbatim.  ELF executable files are loaded by an ELF loader.  The
>     syntax is shown below:
>
> [...]
>         <force-raw> - force-raw=on forces the file to be treated as a raw
>                       image.  This can be used to load ELF files as if
>                       they were raw.
>



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