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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] docs: add PCIe devices placement guidelines


From: Marcel Apfelbaum
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH RFC] docs: add PCIe devices placement guidelines
Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2016 11:23:40 +0300
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On 09/07/2016 11:06 AM, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
On 09/07/16 08:21, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
  Hi,

ports, if that's allowed). For example:

-  1-32 ports needed: use root ports only

- 33-64 ports needed: use 31 root ports, and one switch with 2-32
downstream ports

I expect you rarely need any switches.  You can go multifunction with
the pcie root ports.  Which is how physical q35 works too btw, typically
the root ports are on slot 1c for intel chipsets:

nilsson root ~# lspci -s1c
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset
Family PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev c4)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset
Family PCI Express Root Port 2 (rev c4)
00:1c.2 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 7 Series/C210 Series Chipset
Family PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev c4)

Root bus has 32 slots, a few are taken (host bridge @ 00.0, lpc+sata @
1f.*, pci bridge @ 1e.0, maybe vga @ 01.0), leaving 28 free slots.  With
8 functions each you can have up to 224 root ports without any switches,
and you have not many pci bus numbers left until you hit the 256 busses
limit ...

This is an absolutely great idea. I wonder if it allows us to rip out
all the language about switches, upstream ports and downstream ports. It
would be awesome if we didn't have to mention and draw those things *at
all* (better: if we could summarily discourage their use).

Marcel, what do you think?

While I do think using multi-function Root Ports is definitely the preferred
way to go, keeping the switches around is not so bad, even to have
all PCI Express controllers available for testing scenarios.
We can (and will) of course state  we prefer multi-function Root Ports over
switches and ask libvirt/other management software to not add switches
unless are specifically requested by users.

Thanks,
Marcel


Thanks
Laszlo





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