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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on c


From: ronnie sahlberg
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-img: conditionally discard target on convert
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 06:58:35 -0700

On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Peter Lieven <address@hidden> wrote:
>
> Am 18.07.2013 um 16:35 schrieb Paolo Bonzini <address@hidden>:
>
>> Il 18/07/2013 16:32, Peter Lieven ha scritto:
>>>>>
>>>> (Mis)alignment and granularity can be handled later.  We can ignore them
>>>> for now.  Later, if we decide the best way to support them is a flag,
>>>> we'll add it.  Let's not put the cart before the horse.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, I expect alignment!=0 to be really, really rare.
>>> To explain my concerns:
>>>
>>> I know that my target has internal page size of 15MB. I will check what
>>> happens
>>> if I deallocate this 15MB in chunks of lets say 1MB. If the page gets
>>> unprovisioned
>>> after the last chunk is unmapped it would be fine :-)
>>
>> You're talking of granularity here, not (mis)alignment.
>
> you are right. for the target i am talking about this is 30720 512-byte 
> blocks for the granularity (pagesize) and 0 for the alignment.
> i will see what happens if I write same w/unmap the whole 30720 blocks in 
> smaller blocks ;-)

If you write in smaller than OUG chunks, whether or not the phusical
block becomes unmapped is I think implementation defined. A target is
allowed to make this unmapped but not required to.

For example if you do two writesame16 for your 30720 chunk :
1, writesame16 lba:0 tl:30000
2, writesame16 lba:30000 tl:720

then

SBC 4.7.3.4
===
A WRITE SAME command shall not cause an LBA to become unmapped if
unmapping that LBA creates a
case in which a subsequent read of that unmapped LBA mayis able to
return user data or protection
informationlogical block data that differs from the Data-Out Buffer
for that WRITE SAME command. The
protection information returned by a read of an unmapped LBA is set to
FFFF_FFFF_FFFF_FFFFh
(see 4.7.4.5).
===

during processing of the second writesame of the physical block, since
the physical block is now all zero once this writesame16 completes,  a
target may trigger the whole physical block to become unmapped,
eventhough this specific writesame16 was only for a fraction of the
block.
It is allowed to unmap the block, but not required to.


or it could do it at a later time. For example, a target is allowed to
have say a background scan-and-unmap process that goes through the
disk and unmaps all all-zero physical blocks :
I dont know if your target would do this. Would be neat to add this to STGT.

SBC 4.7.3.5 :
===
If the LBPRZ bit in the READ CAPACITY (16) parameter data (see 5.16.2)
is set to one, and a mapped LBA
references a logical block that contains:
a) user data with all bits set to zero; and
b) protection information, if any, set to FFFF_FFFF_FFFF_FFFFh,
then the device server may transition that mapped LBA to anchored or
deallocated at any time.
===

I.e. a target is allowed at any time to automatically unmap physical
blocks as long as the block is all zero and lbprz is set.


> otherwise i will have to add support for honoring this values in qemu-img 
> convert
> as a follow up.
>
> Peter
>



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