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Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] sheepdog: implement direct write semantics


From: Kevin Wolf
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] sheepdog: implement direct write semantics
Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:21:15 +0100
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Am 10.01.2013 16:12, schrieb Jamie Lokier:
> Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Am 08.01.2013 11:39, schrieb Liu Yuan:
>>> On 01/08/2013 06:00 PM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>>> Am 08.01.2013 10:45, schrieb Liu Yuan:
>>>>> On 01/08/2013 05:40 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>>>>> Otherwise use sheepdog writeback and let QEMU block.c decide when to
>>>>>> flush.  Never use sheepdog writethrough because it's redundant here.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't get it. What do you mean by 'redundant'? If we use virtio &
>>>>> sheepdog block driver, how can we specify writethrough mode for Sheepdog
>>>>> cache? Here 'writethrough' means use a pure read cache, which doesn't
>>>>> need flush at all.
>>>>
>>>> A writethrough cache is equivalent to a write-back cache where each
>>>> write is followed by a flush. qemu makes sure to send these flushes, so
>>>> there is no need use Sheepdog's writethrough mode.
>>>
>>> Implement writethrough as writeback + flush will cause considerable
>>> overhead for network block device like Sheepdog: a single write request
>>> will be executed as two requests: write + flush
>>
>> Yeah, maybe we should have some kind of a FUA flag with write requests
>> instead of sending a separate flush.
> 
> Note that write+FUA has different semantics than write+flush, at least
> with regular disks.
> 
> write+FUA commits just what was written, while write+flush commits
> everything that was written before.

True. However, when you use it for implementing a writethrough mode,
i.e. every single write has the FUA flag set, then it ought to be the
same. One thing to take care of might be doing one explicit flush when
switching from writeback to writethrough.

Kevin



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