qemu-devel
[Top][All Lists]
Advanced

[Date Prev][Date Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Date Index][Thread Index]

Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add definitions for current cpu models..


From: Dor Laor
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add definitions for current cpu models..
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 11:08:20 +0200
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.5) Gecko/20091209 Fedora/3.0-4.fc12 Lightning/1.0pre Thunderbird/3.0 ThunderBrowse/3.2.7

On 01/21/2010 05:05 PM, Anthony Liguori wrote:
On 01/20/2010 07:18 PM, john cooper wrote:
Chris Wright wrote:
* Daniel P. Berrange (address@hidden) wrote:
To be honest all possible naming schemes for '-cpu<name>' are just as
unfriendly as each other. The only user friendly option is '-cpu host'.

IMHO, we should just pick a concise naming scheme& document it. Given
they are all equally unfriendly, the one that has consistency with
vmware
naming seems like a mild winner.
Heh, I completely agree, and was just saying the same thing to John
earlier today. May as well be -cpu {foo,bar,baz} since the meaning for
those command line options must be well-documented in the man page.
I can appreciate the concern of wanting to get this
as "correct" as possible.

This is the root of the trouble. At the qemu layer, we try to focus on
being correct.

Management tools are typically the layer that deals with being "correct".

A good compromise is making things user tunable which means that a
downstream can make "correctness" decisions without forcing those
decisions on upstream.

In this case, the idea would be to introduce a new option, say something
like -cpu-def. The syntax would be:

-cpu-def
name=coreduo,level=10,family=6,model=14,stepping=8,features=+vme+mtrr+clflush+mca+sse3+monitor,xlevel=0x80000008,model_id="Genuine
Intel(R) CPU T2600 @ 2.16GHz"

Which is not that exciting since it just lets you do -cpu coreduo in a
much more complex way. However, if we take advantage of the current
config support, you can have:

[cpu-def]
name=coreduo
level=10
family=6
model=14
stepping=8
features="+vme+mtrr+clflush+mca+sse3.."
model_id="Genuine Intel..."

And that can be stored in a config file. We should then parse
/etc/qemu/target-<targetname>.conf by default. We'll move the current
x86_defs table into this config file and then downstreams/users can
define whatever compatibility classes they want.

With this feature, I'd be inclined to take "correct" compatibility
classes like Nehalem as part of the default qemurc that we install
because it's easily overridden by a user. It then becomes just a
suggestion on our part verses a guarantee.

It should just be a matter of adding qemu_cpudefs_opts to
qemu-config.[ch], taking a new command line that parses the argument via
QemuOpts, then passing the parsed options to a target-specific function
that then builds the table of supported cpus.

Isn't the outcome of John's patches and these configs will be exactly the same? Since these cpu models won't ever change, there is no reason why not to hard code them. Adding configs or command lines is a good idea but it is more friendlier to have basic support to the common cpus.
This is why qemu today offers: -cpu ?
x86           qemu64
x86           phenom
x86         core2duo
x86            kvm64
x86           qemu32
x86          coreduo
x86              486
x86          pentium
x86         pentium2
x86         pentium3
x86           athlon
x86             n270

So bottom line, my point is to have John's base + your configs. We need to keep also the check verb and the migration support for sending those.

btw: IMO we should deal with this complexity ourselves and save 99.9% of the users the need to define such models, don't ask this from a java programmer, he is running on a JVM :-)



Regards,

Anthony Liguori
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe kvm" in
the body of a message to address@hidden
More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html





reply via email to

[Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread]