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Re: status of UTF-8 support?


From: John Darrington
Subject: Re: status of UTF-8 support?
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 15:46:49 +0000
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.18 (2008-05-17)

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 10:40:29AM +0000, John Darrington wrote:
     On Mon, Oct 25, 2010 at 07:51:56PM -0700, Ben Pfaff wrote:
          Rob Messer <address@hidden> writes:
          
          > What is the current status of support for including UTF-8 characters
          > in PSPP output?  My company is using the Perl interface to import
          > survey data into PSPP, and generally it works very well.  However,
          > we've never been able to use it when our dataset includes labels and
          > records in languages like Japanese and Chinese.  I know there have
          > been some recent updates to PSPP, so last week we upgraded to 0.7.5
          > and tried that, but it still didn't seem to work for our test 
Japanese
          > and Chinese data.  Is it supposed to be supported?  And if not in
          > 0.7.5, perhaps in the latest development snapshot?  Thanks,
          
          John Darrington and I talked about this briefly in IRC this
          morning.  We didn't know a reason that UTF-8 shouldn't work.
          
     I had another look today and have to modify my opinion.  Currently, 
non-ascii
     characters will not work with the perl module.   :(
     

OK.   I've just pushed a quick fix which should address this problem.  I tested 
this 
new version writing UTF8 strings in:

 Variable Names;
 Variable Labels;
 Value Labels (both the key and the value);
 Values of string variables.


So now, assuming you have a string variable defined, you can write a string 
value using an literal utf8 string like:

# German word for "Cylindrical concrete billboard"
 $sysfile->append_case ( ["Litfa??sa??le"]);]);

or using escape sequences like:

# The Chinese  representation of the name of the city of Tapei
$sysfile->append_case ( ["\x{53F0}\x{5317}"]);


However, in most real life uses, I image you will not be using string literals,
but will be receiving the data from some other perl module.  In this case, what
needs to be done is :

use Encode;

$s = get_string_data_from_some_source ();
$enc = get_encoding_of_string_data ();

$sysfile->append_case ([decode ($enc, $s)]);


As always with i18n things are never without caveats... in particular:

* You must remember that a variable's "width" is the maximum number of BYTES
  (not characters).


* For rather convoluted reasons, which you need to read "man Encode" in order
  to understand, the code ...

  use utf8;
  use Encode;

  $sysfile->append_case ([decode ('UTF-8', "some-utf8-encoded-string")]);
  
  .... won't work.  Instead,  you would have to write:

  $sysfile->append_case ([decode ('UTF-8', encode ('UTF-8', 
"some-utf8-encoded-string"))]);


I haven't had a chance to look at reading non-ascii from a .sav file into perl.

J'
 

     
     
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