documentation for PSPP in French

[Ben Pfaff]

Julie Seguela <address@hidden> at CICT in France has written
some documentation for PSPP in French.  The documentation may be
read at
        http://cict.fr/~stpierre/doc-pspp.pdf
as a PDF or at
        http://cict.fr/~stpierre/doc-pspp.tex
in LaTeX format.

In the future, it is possible that she may formally contribute
this documentation to the PSPP project.  I'm forwarding some
messages that I've exchanged with Joseph Saint Pierre
<address@hidden>, who I assume to have been Julie's faculty
advisor at CICT.

Here's a translation of the first message into English (my French
is rusty and so mistakes are likely):

    Hello,

            Permit me to write on this list to announce the presence
    on my webpage of French documentation for the program GNU/PSPP.

            This documentation has been written this year by Julie
    Séguéla, student in License of Mathematical Applications and
    Social Sciences (MASS) at the University of Toulouse I.  The
    documentation may be viewed in Acrobat Reader format:
    http://cict.fr/~stpierre/doc-pspp.pdf

            Note that this documentation has been edited rather
    quickly and all comments and critiques are welcome.

            Note about all that the program GNU/PSPP still has
    numerous bugs and is far from being perfect.  For more
    information on this program I recommend that you visit this web
    page:
            http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/

            I think that the GNU/PSPP program is very interesting and
    that its existence is perfectly justified; in my opinion, it is
    not a question of competition with R, I think that GNU/PSPP and R
    will be rather complementary.

            Thank you for your interest.

            Very cordially,

            Joseph Saint Pierre
            http://cict.fr/~stpierre

I'd like to propose, for now, linking to these resources from the
PSPP webpage.  I'm planning to ask Julie directly whether she is
interested in contributing this documentation to PSPP.

Comments?

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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:38:26 -0700
From: Various
Subject: Digested Articles

Topics:
   GNU/PSPP
   Re: PSPP documentation
   PSPP documentation


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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:56:13 +0200
From: Joseph Saint Pierre <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
Cc: Ben Pfaff <address@hidden>, Julie Seguela <address@hidden>
Subject: GNU/PSPP
Message-Id: <address@hidden>
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Bonjour,

       Je me permets d'=E9crire sur cette liste pour annoncer la pr=E9sen=
ce
sur ma page web d'une documentation en fran=E7ais sur le logiciel libre
GNU/PSPP.

      Cette documentation a =E9t=E9 =E9crite cet =E9t=E9 par Julie S=E9gu=
=E9la, =E9tudiante
en Licence de Math=E9matiques Appliqu=E9es et Sciences Sociales (MASS) de
l'universit=E9 de Toulouse I. La documentation est r=E9cup=E9rable au
format Acrobat Reader : http://cict.fr/~stpierre/doc-pspp.pdf

      Attention cette documentation a =E9t=E9 relue assez rapidement et t=
ous
les commentaires, critiques sont les bienvenus.

      Attention surtout le logiciel GNU/PSPP a encore de nombreux "bugs"
et est loin d'=EAtre parfait. Pour plus d'information sur ce logiciel
je vous conseille d'aller voir la page web :

     http://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/

      Je pense que le logiciel GNU/PSPP a un grand int=E9r=EAt et que son
existence est parfaitement justifi=E9e; =E0 mon avis, il ne s'agit pas
d'un concurrent dans le monde du logiciel libre du syst=E8me R, je
pense que GNU/PSPP et R devraient =EAtre assez compl=E9mentaires.

     Merci pour votre int=E9r=EAt.

    Tr=E8s cordialement.
- -=20

Joseph Saint Pierre
http://cict.fr/~stpierre

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Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 11:12:09 +0200
From: Joseph Saint Pierre <address@hidden>
To: Ben Pfaff <address@hidden>
Cc: Julie Seguela <address@hidden>, Philippe BAQUX <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: PSPP documentation
Message-Id: <address@hidden>
References: <address@hidden>
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At 10:26 22/07/2006, Ben Pfaff wrote:

>Many thanks to Julie for doing this work.  Translation and
>documentation efforts are important, but it's rare to find
>someone willing to undertake them.
>What is the intention for moving forward with this?

        Julie wrote the documentation in 8 weeks as part of her cursus but
she is not anymore involved in CICT. In my opinion CICT has to go
forward "free softwares", we have already a web page dedicated to
free softwares http://www.cict.fr/rubrique.php?id_rubrique=5, CICT is
the french mirror site for R project http://cran.fr.r-project.org/ .
I think CICT could help GNU/PSPP, I proposed to Julie to write a PSPP
documentation in french because I thought PSPP could be a very useful
package and I wanted to make it more popular among french speaking
"statisticians". In the documetation, Julie has written something
about linking PSPP to R, I think PSPP should not become as SPSS and
should not become a concurrent of R for complex statistics.

>If you or Julie like, we can simply link to it from the PSPP webpage as a
>documentation resource.  That is easy to do.

     Julie has written the documentation and I read it but nobody else
has checked the validity, but you can make the link when you want.

>But if you're interested in contributing this work to the FSF as a French
>manual for PSPP, then we can talk about that too. I think that
>there would be two basic prerequisites for that, if you're
>interested.  First, the FSF would need a copyright assignment or
>disclaimer to be signed by the document's copyright owner.
>Second, the document would have to be written in a free document
>format, with Texinfo as the format of preference.

    I am very interested in contributing, but I do not know how to
handle copyright stuff and for this documentation Julie is the owner
and I think ot it is up to her to decide...

    The documentation was written with LaTeX composer, you can get it
http://cict.fr/~stpierre/doc-pspp.tex . I do not know how to quickly
convert LaTeX format into Texinfo document...

>Again, thank you for doing this work, and please let me know your
>thoughts on how you would like to proceed.

    I do not know what to do exactly now, but I going to make the
documentation visible on my web page with a comment, then I announce
it on a distribution list
( http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/analyse-donnees/ )

>May I forward your information about this documentation to the
>PSPP developer's email list?

    Yes sure.

  Thank you for your interest.

- - 
Joseph Saint Pierre
http://cict.fr/~stpierre

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 16:32:13 +0200
From: Joseph Saint Pierre <address@hidden>
To: Ben Pfaff <address@hidden>
Cc: Julie Seguela <address@hidden>
Subject: PSPP documentation
Message-Id: <address@hidden>
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Hello Ben Pfaff,

      Julie Seguela has written a PSPP documentation in french. Julie is a
social statistics student (3rd year) and writing this documentation
was the object of a training period in CICT. The documentation is on
my web page :

http://cict.fr/~stpierre/doc-pspp.pdf

       It is not exactly a translation of your documentation, but it
mainly based on it.

      The documentation is on my web page but "hidden", if you agree it
can be diffused.

      Yours faithfully.

- - 
Joseph Saint Pierre
http://cict.fr/~stpierre

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