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Re: [Pan-users] 0.140 Don't bother it won't compile on less than *buntu


From: Duncan
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] 0.140 Don't bother it won't compile on less than *buntu 16.04 or better
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 05:36:41 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.141 (Tarzan's Death; GIT 4e0db5ff8)

Dave posted on Sat, 19 Nov 2016 02:49:57 +0000 as excerpted:

> I note that Ubuntu 14.04LTS has an EOL date of April 2019 so someone at
> Ubuntu should be dealing with keeping the packages up to date, including
> both Pan and GNUtls.  Or does LTS just mean the actual distro and
> whatever packages are available, potentially "stuck" at whenever it was
> last compiled?

Umm... Generally the whole idea with LTS releases is that you get 
security-fixes only, and those are normally backported to whatever 
version was shipped at release, the idea being if it's not broken, don't 
"fix" it, and actually break it.  A few select kernel drivers may be 
updated, again by backporting, and a _very_ few select kernel features 
backported as well, generally to work with new hardware or support some 
"must-have" enterprisish feature, but that's about it.

So... pretty much "stuck", as you said.


Of course some of us spell it stale^H^Hble and prefer to stay far away 
from it, certainly for our desktops/laptops/workstations, but others pay 
good money to do that, and for servers at least they arguably have a 
point.  Tho I suppose for the "I just want it to work and not break or 
change functionality I'm used to working in in a particular way" folks, 
that's arguably what they want/need on their personal machines as well.  
But of course that's anything but me, so...

Of course there do tend to be third party repos that have updates for 
this or that, if the distro is popular enough to have grown that sort of 
community ecosystem around it, but those of course don't tend to be 
supported by the distro, and sort of break the whole ideal of stale^H^Hble 
as well and one would /think/ that people would choose a faster cycling 
distro if they wanted updates, but these repos do tend to be popular in 
some quarters so what can I say?

Anyway, arguably trying to update pan to 0.140 is out of keeping with the 
whole idea of the staleness of stability that is the point of an LTS, so 
that it won't build with encrypted-connection support is perhaps for the 
best... for people that chose that staleness in the first place and 
continue to want it in general.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
and if you use the program, he is your master."  Richard Stallman




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