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Re: [Pan-users] Pan won't connect Was: help


From: Brian
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Pan won't connect Was: help
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:51:28 -0400
User-agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0

Thank you so much for your timely reply.
As for the faux pas of using the one word subject, that came from the welcome message I received after registering "with the word `help' in the subject or body (don't include the quotes), and you will get back a message with instructions." I will however be careful not to do that again. As for the problem I was having I entered my ID and password in log in info when my ISP did not require it. When I removed that Pan did what it was supposed to do. I feel like I sent in a false alarm and for that I apologize. Again, thank you
Brian

On 09/10/2014 05:02 AM, Duncan wrote:
Brian posted on Tue, 09 Sep 2014 17:50:14 -0400 as excerpted:

I have just installed Pan and set up my news server. It is the same one
I have been using in Windows for years. On the bottom of the Pan window
it says "no connections" and does not get the groups available from my
server. Can you help me out with this.
While chances are it doesn't matter so much for this question, please
remember to mention pan version[1].  Sometimes it /does/ make a
difference, particularly if you're asking about or reporting a potential
bug.

Additionally, a subject line describing the issue a bit more verbosely
than simply "help" can be useful, too.  I actually thought this was
probably going to be a spam message based on the single one-word subject
and very nearly skipped it as a result.  See the change I've made to the
subject line above for an example of a rather more useful subject line
for in this case.

Thanks. =:^)

As to the question (in case it's different, the below is based on pan's
current git version, unreleased 0.140, as of the last time I checked, a
few days ago, see my headers for the specific git commit) ...

Normally, as soon as you enter valid server information and hit OK on the
server setting dialog, pan should automatically connect and start
downloading the group list.

There are a few reasons why it might not, with various fixes.

1) Pan is offline.  This might be due to accidentally hitting the
keyboard shortcut (looks like it's "l" by default) that toggles online/
offline mode.

Verify that pan is online.  File menu, work online should be CHECKED.

2) Perhaps the task was canceled for some reason.

On the left hand side of the status bar, by the "no connections" text you
mentioned, what does it say for tasks?  1/1 means it should be
downloading.  0/1 (or possibly 0/N, N=2 or more) means it can't connect
for whatever reason (offline, bad server info, etc) and has the download
group list task queued but not running.  0/0 means it was canceled or not
queued for some reason.

Double-clicking that tasks section of the status bar should popup the
task list, letting you start and stop tasks, delete them, reorder them,
etc.

Double-clicking the icon on the right-hand side (which will change
depending on whether pan encountered any errors or not) should popup the
log window, letting you see what pan has done or tried to do.  Obviously
if there are errors there, they might be helpful in further diagnosing
the problem.

Of course both of these windows are available via the menu as well, under
file, for these functions.

Anyway, you can try queuing up another group list refresh.  Groups menu,
refresh groups list.

3) If the news server information is wrong, you can use edit menu, edit
news servers, to get a servers dialog, and from there add or edit
individual news servers.

The default unencrypted NNTP port is 119.  If you switch on security
(assuming your build of pan supports it), pan should automatically switch
to the default NNTPS port, 563.  You can of course change this port to
something else if your server supports it.  Obviously if you're trying to
use NNTPS and your server doesn't support it, you'll have a problem.

Additionally, there's three types of header compression.  Get that wrong
and you'll have a problem.

Obviously if your server requires a login and password, you'll need to
enter those as well.

I'd try getting it working with an unencrypted connection without
compression, first.  Once you know that's working, you can try enabling
encryption and compression.

Again, pan's log should give you a bit more information about the attempt
to connect and what might have gone wrong, assuming you're not offline.

---
[1] Pan version:  Available as usual from help, about, from the user-
agent header of a post using pan, or by running pan from the command line
as pan --version.  One of the first two is preferred as they are normally
more precise as they include specific git commit information, while pan
--version only lists the release version itself.  You can see an example
of the user-agent header in my own headers since I'm posting with pan
right now (using gmane.org's list2news service).





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