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[Pan-users] Re: [PATCH] Make 'get new headers' the default in the Get He


From: walt
Subject: [Pan-users] Re: [PATCH] Make 'get new headers' the default in the Get Headers dialog
Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 02:47:03 +0000 (UTC)

On Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:20:09 +0200, Thomas Fricke wrote:

> Hi,
> 
>> I got tired of 'get N days headers' being the default choice, so I
>> changed it to 'get new headers' which is what I want 99% of the time.
 
> correct me if I'm wrong, but there is an extra icon for this in the
> toolbar and an entry in the menu? "Get New Headers for Seleced Groups"

Yes you are indeed right, thanks for pointing it out.  The reason I
bothered to change the code brings up a frequent problem:  different
people use the same application in many different ways that the programmer
didn't expect.  That's one reason for the unfortunate Creeping Feature
Bloat we all complain about.  (Well, I do, anyway.)

My typical scenario is this:  when I finish reading (or deciding not to
read) all the latest posts in a group, I delete them all before exiting.

I don't read every subscribed group every time I start pan, so fetching
'new headers for all subscribed groups' is a waste of time and bandwidth
(and therefore money).  So I don't do it.

Yes, this leaves me the option of fetching 'all new headers for selected
groups' but at this point there aren't any selected groups, so I can't
actually use that option (yet).

Instead, I click on the one group I want to check (which now has no unread
articles, remember) and pan pops up the Get Headers dialog box which asks
me to pick one of the three options -- and the option I always want is
*not* the default.

Your comment made me realize that pan is really making a bad assumption:
it treats a subscribed group (with no unread articles) exactly the same
way it treats a new group that you've never read before -- but they are
not at all the same.

Pan should not pop up the Get Headers dialog box for a subscribed group
because 'get new headers' is the only reasonable choice 99% of the time.
The popup dialog box should be reserved for unsubscribed groups only.`

Comments/rebuttals?








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