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Re: [Pan-users] Re: Pan v0.14.2.91 crashing X hard (black screen)/messin


From: Phillip Pi
Subject: Re: [Pan-users] Re: Pan v0.14.2.91 crashing X hard (black screen)/messing up NVIDIA card badly...
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:55:25 -0700
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On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 09:34:19AM -0700, Phillip Pi wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2006 at 11:09:14AM +0000, Duncan wrote:
> > Phillip Pi <address@hidden> posted
> > address@hidden, excerpted below, on  Sat, 26 Aug
> > 2006 02:02:10 -0700:
> > 
> > > In alt.binaries.ipod.videos.movies newsgroup on news.giganews.com server,
> > > it appears that specific threads or something is hard crashing my X server
> > > with a black screen and locked video card in KDE v3.5 (Gnome didn't crash,
> > > but showed corrupted texts) with Pan v0.14.2.9 in this specific binary
> > > newsgroup.
> > 
> > I'm going to be subscribing to newshosting this weekend (waiting to see if
> > someone wants to sponsor me and get the kickback ATM, anybody here?  I may
> > have subscribed time you reply, but worth a shot) and may be able to try
> > it.  Any idea the relative date range causing the issue?
> 
> Try downloading about 30K posts. I did 15K last night.

NVIDIA poster told me to collect logs in my NVIDIA forum thread. I gathered the 
newsgroup thread 
datas:

The newsgroup threads (not even reading a thread -- just the list) that crashes 
are (copied and 
pasted):
Subject: 
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Cablebox_->DVD._Later_DVD->MP4_using_Handbrake_Mpeg-4_Video_/_AAC_Audio_,_FFMEG,_400kpbs_AVB,_2-pass_encoding,_22050_Sample_Rate,_128kbps_Bitrate.=0D=0DParts_3_and_4.=0D=0Dhttp://www.hbo.com/docs/programs/whentheleveesbroke/index.html=0D=0D=0D=0DThis_intimate,_heart-rending_portrait_of_New_Orleans_in_the_wake_of_the_destruction_tells_the_heartbreaking_personal_stories_of_those_who_endured_this_harrowing_ordeal_and_survived_to_tell_the_tale_of_misery,_despair_and_triumph._=0D=0DThe_film_also_looks_at_a_community_that_has_been_through_hell_and_back,_surviving_death,_devastation_and_disease_at_every_turn._Yet,_somehow,_amidst_the_ruins,_the_people_of_New_Orleans_are_finding_new_hope_and_strength_as_the_city_rises_from_the_ashes,_buoyed_by_their_own_resilience_and_a_rich_cultural_legacy._=0D=0D"New_Orleans_is_fighting_for_its_life,"_says_Lee._"These_are_not_people_who_will_disappear_quietly_-_they're_accustomed_to_hardship_and_slights,_and_they'll_fight_for_New_Orleans._This_film_will_showcase_theFrom:
         
spike
Newsgroups:   alt.binaries.ipod.videos.movies
Date:         Thu, 24 Aug 2006 08:02:33 -0700

I think that ISO thing is making it my whole X server crash hard. Is Pan 
supposed to read this 
correctly?

  
> > > You can read the details at
> > > http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=975183 ...
> > > 
> > > Has anyone seen or have this problem? I am not planning to upgrade to the
> > > newer Pan version since it doesn't have all the features I use in the
> > > older one.
> > 
> > That's the first time I've seen anything similar reported in the pan
> > groups/lists.
> > 
> > It's up to you whether you upgrade or not, of course, but you
> > realize the old code is now dead and not likely to be updated or bug-fixed
> > any further, right?  As such, while confirming the bug as a pan bug or
> 
> I understand. Until Pan has most of the features, I will use the old one.
> 
> 
> > tracing it to something else (maybe NVidia since you appear to be
> > running their closed drivers and it certainly affects video) might be
> > worthwhile, spending too much time tracing bugs in the old code simply
> > won't be.
> > 
> > FWIW, I was previously suggesting folks stick with old-pan for text or if
> > they didn't need any of the new features.  With the last couple betas,
> > 0.108 and 0.109, however, that's changed.  The new version has all my most
> > used features for text anyway, and is enough better for binaries I'm
> > getting back into them (thus the newshosting thing I mentioned above).
> > 
> > For categorizing, I'm using the $PAN_HOME environmental variable, with a
> > script setting it to one dir for my text groups, a second for binaries,
> > and a third for my test config (which allows me separate settings
> > appropriate to each, but also using symlinks, to use the same file where
> > appropriate, as with the accels.txt file).  That keeps displayed
> > subscribed groups to a manageable level, one of the big requests.  The
> > only other other one I still miss is the ability to actually kill (as in
> > delete) kill-scored posts, and mark-as-read low/negative scored posts (so
> > they'd be hidden by default, something I did in old-pan using rules.
> > 
> > That said, as I said, it's up to you when to upgrade and I definitely
> > understand not wanting to do so until new-pan is out of beta and into
> > stable, anyway, which it isn't yet.  Thus, at least trying to work thru
> > any issues in old-pan continues to be worthwhile.  I'll see if anything
> > strange comes up when I visit the group after subscribing to newshosting
> > (Cox's servers are crap ATM and have been most of the time for months, for
> > binaries of any size, tho std jpeg size bins seem to be semi-decent.)

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a long, a long, long mile of ants. Sometimes they will walk over and pick up 
their dead friends and carry those around. I'm pretty sure it's because they 
can get in the carpool lane and pass up that line." --Ellen DeGeneres
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