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[Pan-users] Re: Unsent Messages


From: Duncan
Subject: [Pan-users] Re: Unsent Messages
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:42:36 -0700
User-agent: Pan/0.14.2 (This is not a psychotic episode. It's a cleansing moment of clarity.)

Tamblyne posted <address@hidden>, excerpted
below,  on Thu, 11 Sep 2003 17:42:46 -0500:

> In trying to fix this -- as perhaps the email address is, after all, not
> correct, I can find no way to re-open a message in the "unsent" folder (or
> in the sent folder, either), to edit it and resend it.  The only option
> seems to be to attempt to resent the message -- the result being I have
> some messages showing up three or four times (since Pan tells me it wasn't
> sent in the first place) and some now showing up at all.  
> 
> I know I have to be missing something here that's very simple.

Well, unfortunately it isn't "very simple", but there does exist a
work-around.

To edit such a post, first find the file under
~/.pan/data/messages/folders/pan.sendlater .  Since the message files are
named by message ID, rather than subject or group, it may be a bit hard to
find the right one.  However, the date/time is present in the msgid, so
that should help, and you should be able to then use grep or some other
search within file content method (I generally use KDE's find file applet
as plugged into Konqueror) to find the specific message, if necessary.

Then open it in your favorite text editor and edit as necessary, saving
the edited file when you are done.

You then have a choice.  You may wish to try sending it again with PAN
directly.  I usually cut and paste the content into a different PAN
message, or into my mailer (kmail), if it's to be mailed rather than
"newsed".  I could also attach the entire message file for mailing, or use
KNode and send it as an attachment for news (since PAN doesn't handle
attachment posting automatically yet, tho I've seen some folks mention
doing the encoding manually then including it as text in a PAN message).

BTW, opening up the raw message file may help in the debugging as well,
since you can then see what PAN actually did with the mail address you
thought you put in.  Maybe PAN has another bug, tho I mail so seldom from
it I wouldn't likely know, if my address worked OK since I do mail myself
copies of particularly interesting articles from time to time.

Finally, one possibility on the mail bug causing all this.  My ISP doesn't
take mail with invalid domains in the return address, and altho I don't
munge for gmane, I do for general usenet.  Thus, I have a different
profile for general internet than I do for gmane and a different one yet
for mail.  With the munged general usenet address, I can't send mail
anyway, so I can't send to both mail and group.  I have to open one reply,
create the content, then b4 sending, open the other and copy/paste, then
send both, as separate sends.  It may be your problem is similar, or
anyway can be worked around in the future by a similar separate send
technique, which would at least avoid the duplicate news postings while
attempting to straighten out the mail posting, since they'd then be
separate postings.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --
Benjamin Franklin






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