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From: | Thomas Treichl |
Subject: | Re: Octave on Android |
Date: | Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:34:24 +0200 |
User-agent: | Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.0.1 |
Thomas, Was your issue that you could not find the source code and didn't realize, as a user, you could make a request for it? Or did you think that charging for GPL licensed programs is not allowed (but actually is)? Trust me, I have struggled over this. With the various projects I have, I actually have a lot of users and get contacted a lot and am continuously improving my apps (the number of hours I have for this is small, so this may not be obvious). I expected that others would want to contribute time/skill, but I don't get emails about that. I get emails about bugs, feature requests and how to do a particular thing. I also get effectively love letter and hate mail. I didn't charge for a long time, but I now believe (knowing myself) that I will provide a better product with some small incentive. I have made that payment requirement have very minimal impact on the users and I have made the source code available so it can be modified. If you know a little something about Android and my source code, the payment can be bypassed in a couple of ways that doesn't even require source code modification (nothing illegal, just the right file in the right place). Can we tone this down a bit? Can you drop your complaint to Google until you are sure there is a valid complaint to be made? Thanks everyone, Corbin
Dear Corbin,you must know that I'm the very last person who won't come to an happy end here. Once again, I'm not talking about GNU Octave Core, the Core Developers can speak for themselves, I'm talking about OdePkg 0.8.2.
I'm not very fast in answering emails and meanwhile a lot of people already have replied, but let's turn time back a few hours to explain my point of view this morning:
- Doing a quick find . -iname ode23.m on my tab gave as a result: surprisingly nothing. - Doing a quick grep -re "ode23" * on my tab gave as a result: <whereever>/lib__file5.so I thought: *hm* binary. Next I got the answer from you: - You wrote:" require donation" and I thought: definitely no.- You wrote:" at least $1" and I thought: not even 1c and "especially not" if distributed in binary form.
Next I've taken a look at your repo: no OdePkg modifications found *hm* after that my answer followed.
Now, what I want you to do is:- Please make all the necessary modifications and scripts available that are needed to build OdePkg 0.8.2 as pushed as a package to Google's Play Store. I want to have a look at the codes.
- make a binary package of OdePkg or of GNU Octave that doesn't "require donation" to run OdePkg, modify the website at Google Play Store that clearly does not say "Currently, only functions if you have made a donation." but something about "Free as in Freedom".
- make a donation to the Core Octave Development team here http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/donate.htmlabout any amount that you think honours OdePkg 0.8.2 from the amount that you've gotten AND really do it!
Best Regards ThomasPS. About that Google ticket: I can't stop that tank at the moment but once I get contacted I'll tell them that we're in a friendly solving way right here on the list - maybe you should do the same.
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