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Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update]
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Ben Abbott |
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Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update] |
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Sun, 31 Mar 2013 11:04:40 -0400 |
On Mar 31, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Richard Crozier wrote:
> On 31/03/2013 15:28, Ben Abbott wrote:
>
>> On Mar 31, 2013, at 9:05 AM, Ben Abbott wrote:
>>
>>> On Mar 31, 2013, at 7:53 AM, Carnë Draug wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 30 March 2013 15:50, Ben Abbott <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 12:50 PM, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So this is why it's always an annoyance to try to implement something
>>>>>> before Matlab... We've had strsplit since 2009 in Octave, and in 2013,
>>>>>> TMW finally implements it themselves, with a differing calling form
>>>>>> than ours:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/strsplit.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone feel like chasing after this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Jordi G. H.
>>>>> I've prepared a version that is compatible with Matlab, but compatibility
>>>>> means that the current behavior must be broken. There are many files
>>>>> which rely upon strsplit().
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>
>>>>> I've modified the files to use the new version, and produced a changeset.
>>>>> I don't see any regressions, but this may break some code on
>>>>> Octave-Forge.
>>>> It does. There's a couple of functions in OF that use strsplit. The
>>>> problem would be matching a new release of Octave and packages that
>>>> make use of it.
>>>>
>>>> Is anyone interested in contacting Mathworks to propose formation of
>>>> some sort of consortium to avoid this sort of things in the future? :p
>>>>
>>>> Carnë
>>> In addition to Mathwork's new strsplit(), they have introduced strjoin().
>>>
>>> http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/ref/strjoin.html
>>>
>>> Once strjoin() is added the compatible version may be used to obtain the
>>> conventional behavior by ...
>>>
>>> cstrsplit = @(str,del, collapsedelimiters=false) strsplit (strjoin
>>> (cellstr (str), del(1)), num2cell (del(:)), collapsedelimiters)
>>>
>>> The strjoin() function is also a problem for OF.
>>>
>>> http://octave.sourceforge.net/strings/function/strjoin.html
>>>
>>> However, the OF implementation does provide a good starting point for
>>> implementing strjoin() for Octave's core.
>>>
>>> Ben
>> The conflicts between names of m-files isn't going away. Should a naming
>> convention for OF packages be adopted to reduce the likelihood of a name
>> conflict between Octave core and/or Matlab?
>>
>> Perhaps the package functions could begin with a prefix? For example, all
>> control package functions could begin with "ctrl_". Thus foo.m becomes
>> ctrl_foo.m?
>>
>> Ben
>
> Isn't the real issue here a lack of namespaces? With the new classdef branch
> I believe the Matlab 'package' structure (adding + to the start of
> directories to sort-of make them into a namespace) is being implemented.
> Perhaps forge packages could start using this? Otherwise it will just keep
> happening. Alternatively, a superior namespace scheme could be implemented in
> Octave (just like that you know, it's easy isn't it? ;-) ).
>
> Richard
That is a much better solution!
http://www.mathworks.com/help/matlab/matlab_oop/scoping-classes-with-packages.html
Ben
- strsplit needs an update, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso, 2013/03/27
- Re: strsplit needs an update, Ben Abbott, 2013/03/30
- Re: strsplit needs an update, Carnë Draug, 2013/03/31
- Re: strsplit needs an update, Ben Abbott, 2013/03/31
- Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update], Ben Abbott, 2013/03/31
- Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update], Richard Crozier, 2013/03/31
- Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update],
Ben Abbott <=
- Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update], John W. Eaton, 2013/03/31
- Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update], Richard Crozier, 2013/03/31
- Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update], John W. Eaton, 2013/03/31
- Re: core, matlab, & OF name conflicts [Was: strsplit needs an update], Carnë Draug, 2013/03/31
- Re: strsplit needs an update, Ben Abbott, 2013/03/31
- Re: strsplit needs an update, Ben Abbott, 2013/03/31
- Re: strsplit needs an update, Carnë Draug, 2013/03/31