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Re: [Nmh-workers] Stanford disliking my emails -- update + question

From: Andy Bradford
Subject: Re: [Nmh-workers] Stanford disliking my emails -- update + question
Date: 24 Apr 2015 17:30:58 -0600

Thus said Bob Carragher on Fri, 24 Apr 2015 15:46:15 -0700:

> Is it really GMail that's doing this?

I recall experimenting  with Gmail many years ago and  at the time, they
did  ``duplicate  removal''  based  on perhaps  the  Message-ID.  As  an
experiment, I have added a local alias here which forwards to your Gmail
account and which is not subscribed to  the list server. You may have to
check your Spam folder for it, but will  you let me know if you get 1, 2
or 3  copies? If  you get  just one,  then this  confirms that  Gmail is
removing duplicates (as  I suspect it has been doing  for years, and for
which reason  I stopped using Gmail).  If you get 2,  the headers should
reveal  which route  those 2  messages took  and if  they are  both from
non-MLM deliveries, then the mailing list  is deciding not to send you a

I actually believe  this behavior is wrong in an  MLM---how does it know
that the  message was delivered successfully?  In your case, it  took 33
hours for  you to get the  message, however, had the  MLM just performed
the basic forwarding service it should have been designed to do, you may
have actually received it much more quicker; sure, you may have received
2 copies, but I  think that's a better experience than  a 33 hour single

> Or  is  it the  list  server,  seeing that  one  of  the list's  email
> addresses is in the header, deciding not to send a (duplicate) copy to
> it?

Some MLMs do this, I'm not sure if  this one does, but we may be able to
find out with the little experiment above.


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