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Re: [Nmh-workers] Emails being tagged as spam -- NMH solution???
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Ralph Corderoy |
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Re: [Nmh-workers] Emails being tagged as spam -- NMH solution??? |
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Mon, 23 Feb 2015 11:19:06 +0000 |
Hi Andy,
> > You guess wrong. It is useful. I'm declaring what's valid and
> > interested parties can use it, and I've seen they do, to help judge
> > what they've received.
>
> By the way, my apologies for using your domain as an example.
I don't mind; lots of spammers use it anyway. And it's your IP address
if any backlist feedback is occurring. :-) I found the number of
automatic "bounce" emails, "still undelivered after N hours", that kind
of thing, dropped off very quickly when I put SPF in place.
> I was so
> surprised to actually find a domain that used -all that I immediately
> put on my ``for science'' hat and proceeded to test.
twitter.com and amazon.com are two others with `-all' IIRC.
> > Did Hotmail accept the message over SMTP, or also deliver it to your
> > inbox? What was the detail of their spam judgement, e.g. based on
> > its headers? (Using Hotmail as an arbiter of quality!? Would be
> > interesting to hear what Gmail does.)
>
> Yes, Hotmail accepted the message over SMTP from a non-approved IP
> address and delivered it the Spam folder.
OK, so SPF may well have encouraged it to place it in +spam.
> Interesting observation. I've always found it to be the opposite and
> you're actually the first to have mentioned it. At least for me, I find
> that having the text wrapped at odd places, or not wrapped at
> all depending on the terminal/software displaying it, is much more
> difficult.
I'm on the GNU groff mailing list, and there's the odd correspondent
there that runs their emails through nroff. :-) It also fully
justifies on a TTY, e.g.
tr -dc 0-4a-c </dev/urandom | tr -s a-z \\n | sed 100q |
nroff | grep .
Thankfully, man(1) has --nj that can be put into $MANOPT. :-)
A larger space indicates to me a significant break, e.g. end of
sentence. Lack of hyphenation means many spaces are becoming two in
your formatting, creating ugly rivers of whitespace. These are a
problem in typesetting of proportional fonts fully justified;
fixed-width doesn't have a chance. Subjective, I agree.
It also breaks vim's formatting of the `> ' quotes lines above, i.e. it
preserves the multiple spaces thinking they're significant.
Cheers, Ralph.
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