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Re: [Nmh-workers] show message number scrolls off terminal?

From: Paul Fox
Subject: Re: [Nmh-workers] show message number scrolls off terminal?
Date: Sat, 07 Feb 2015 14:27:48 -0500

andy wrote:
 > Hello,
 > Recent  discussion about  the show  message  numbers reminded  me of  an
 > annoying behavior  that I haven't  ever been able  to solve. When  I use
 > show to show a message, it prints a line that looks like:
 > (Message ML/nongnu/nmh-workers:9)
 > But I never see it. It scrolls off  of my terminal and is found above my
 > pager (if  I use the  terminal's scrollbar to go  back in history).  So I
 > never  know which  message I'm  looking at  unless I  scroll back  in my
 > terminals output.
 > Is this intentional?

i think it's either a bug, or an anachronism, depending on how
you feel about misfeatures that have been there forever.  ;-)

it only shows that header if you're only looking at just one message. 
if you're looking at more than one, and none of them are MIME
(unlikely), then you'll see something like:
   >>>  ML/nongnu/nmh-workers:9
   >>>  ML/nongnu/nmh-workers:10
and they _will_ be inside your pager, rather than outside.

and as eric pointed out the other day, if any of your messages
are MIME, you'll currently get no per-message headers at all, unless
there's only one of them, in which case you'll get the one you've
mentioned.  (i'm in the process of preparing a patch to let mhshow
produce per-message headers.)

i myself haven't used "show" in a number of years.  i have wrapper
scripts that i invoke in any case, and they've been calling mhshow
for a long time.  my wife was using show until more recently, until
i got tired of the occasional complaint that something wasn't working
for her, and i made a new "show" alias that invokes mhshow.  she never

so here's a serious question:  are there compelling features within
show that keep people using it?  so much mail is MIME these days that
i can't imagine mhl is being invoked very often.  if "show" became
"mhshow" in a future release, i wonder how many folks would actually

 paul fox, address@hidden (arlington, ma, where it's 22.6 degrees)

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