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Re: lynx-dev TRST & centering (was: dev.13 progress...)

From: Lloyd G. Rasmussen
Subject: Re: lynx-dev TRST & centering (was: dev.13 progress...)
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:37:04 -0400

I look forward to testing this patch out as soon as someone compiles a
Win/32 version.  I hope there is eventually a keyboard toggle, a
command-line switch, or an option to change table behavior on the fly.
Hiroyuki used ctrl-Q for table centering, but I think that's an unfortunate
choice in the case of terminals.  What is 't' or 'T' used for?  

I think table rendering will be useful in some cases, such as bus
schedules, product comparison charts, sports scores, etc.  But many tables
have data flowing onto multiple lines, and reading down the third column
with a screen reader becomes a real hassle.  I'm pretty sure it will be
useful to easily turn the new table rendering on and off.

At 09:54 AM 10/21/99 -0500, you wrote:
>On Thu, 21 Oct 1999, Kim DeVaughn wrote:
>> On Wed, Oct 20, 1999, Klaus Weide (address@hidden) said:
>> |
>> | > Right now it seems like any table that is processed by the TRST code,
>> | > is centered on the screen (as below).
>> |
>> | Not really - your second example wasn't.
>> Heh.  Yeah ... I noticed that just after I sent my prior message.  I was
>> thinking about some of the other pages that I'd just been visiting though,
>> where the centering seems more gratuitous (1st example below), or might
>> make the result *seem* "busier" (or even less well rendered) than the non-
>> TRST version (2nd example below, due to the left-justification of (only)
>> the "Game Summary/Recap" line).
>> It's probably more of a case of getting used to "something different", I
>> suppose.
>Maybe that, or page brokenness that becomes apparent now, or flaws
>in the mechanism, or all combined in various ways, differnetly in
>different cases.
>> OTOH, since TRST-rendering can make quite a difference in the visual
>> appearance (at least as great as the difference between SortaSGML and
>> TagSoup modes), why not have a bindable command to switch between TRST
>> on and off?
>Add one, send a patch, if you come to the conclusion that that's called
>I'd rather try to make it better (or explain away the differences ;) ).
>Adding an easy switch to turn it off would just distract from that...
>but that's just my personal opinion.
>> A couple more examples, re the above:
>Any examples would be even more appreciated if you could look at the
>HTML and try to figure out why things are as they are... :)
>> >========================================================================<
>> Linkname: NFL on FOX
>>      URL:
>> ----dev.12----------------------------------------------------------------
>> ----dev.13----------------------------------------------------------------
>>    [score_week6.gif] [57][(7)__Week 6_______]
>>    [black_line.gif]
>>    Monday, October 18
>>    NFC
>>                          NY Giants 13, Dallas 10
>>                       Time         Matchup    Total Details
>>                     9:00 p.m.      [58]Dallas  10    Final
>>    [59]Game Summary | [60]Recap
>>                    [61]NY Giants      13
>>    Sunday, October 17
>You seem to have -tagsoup on?
>Try it the other way, sometimes it makes a drastic difference.
>   Klaus
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