Re: lynx-dev LYNX: the L-page: example of usefulness

[David Combs]

Thanks for the very informative reply.

All is NOT lost -- but a lot is.

I went there, did an L page, visited from there two pages,
  . a main page for one of the manuals.
  . a subject-within-manual for that same manual.

And then redid the "L", and got this:

                                                                                
                                List Page (p1 of 2)

                                               List Page (Lynx Version 
2.8.2dev.14)
   
   References in http://www.mutt.org/manual.html
     
     * [1]next
     * [2]next
     * [3]mailto:address@hidden
     * [4]next
     * [5]in next - ss1.1
     * [6]in next - ss1.2
     * [7]in next - ss1.3
     * [8]in next - ss1.4
     * [9]in next - ss1.5
     * [10]in next - ss1.6
     * [11]The Mutt E-Mail Client: Getting Started
     * [12]in The Mutt E-Mail Client: Getting Started - ss2.1
     * [13]in The Mutt E-Mail Client: Getting Started - ss2.2
     * [14]in The Mutt E-Mail Client: Getting Started - ss2.3
     * [15]in The Mutt E-Mail Client: Getting Started - ss2.4
     * [16]in The Mutt E-Mail Client: Getting Started - ss2.5
     * [17]next
     * [18]in next - ss3.1
     * [19]in next - ss3.2
     * [20]in next - ss3.3
     * [21]in next - ss3.4
     * [22]in next - ss3.5
     * [23]in next - ss3.6
     * [24]in next - ss3.7
     * [25]in next - ss3.8
     * [26]in next - ss3.9
     * [27]in next - ss3.10
     * [28]in next - ss3.11
     * [29]in next - ss3.12
     * [30]in next - ss3.13
     * [31]in next - ss3.14
     * [32]in next - ss3.15
     * [33]in next - ss3.16
     * [34]in next - ss3.17
     * [35]in next - ss3.18
     * [36]in next - ss3.19
     * [37]in next - ss3.20
     * [38]http://www.mutt.org/manual-4.html
     * [39]http://www.mutt.org/manual-4.html#ss4.1
     * [40]http://www.mutt.org/manual-4.html#ss4.2
     * [41]http://www.mutt.org/manual-4.html#ss4.3
     * [42]http://www.mutt.org/manual-4.html#ss4.4
     * [43]http://www.mutt.org/manual-4.html#ss4.5
     * [44]http://www.mutt.org/manual-4.html#ss4.6
 
NOTE that for this site, ALL of the manuals have the
SAME "title": "next".

From my experience p(rinting) pages, MOST pages I print
seem to have the same situation -- all with the same
title (well, lots of them, anyway).  For sure, mostly
meaningless.

Anyway, once the urls have been changed to "next",
no way to tell one manual from another!  In fact,
you might think, from a QUICK glance at the above
L-page (had you visited ALL the separate manuals,
ALL presumably also named "next"), that there was only
ONE file to download.

There's no way out -- having a way to see all the URLs
is still essential.

David

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On Tue, Feb 09, 1999 at 02:30:17AM -0500, Chuck Martin wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 08, 1999 at 03:49:49PM -0800, David Combs wrote:
> ...[snip]...
> >      * [1]next
> >      * [2]next
> >      * [3]mailto:address@hidden
> >      * [4]next
> >      * [5]in next - ss1.1
> >      * [6]in next - ss1.2
> >      * [7]in next - ss1.3
> >      * [8]in next - ss1.4
> >      * [9]in next - ss1.5
> >      * [10]in next - ss1.6
> >      * [11]http://www.mutt.org/manual-2.html
> >      * [12]http://www.mutt.org/manual-2.html#ss2.1
> >      * [13]http://www.mutt.org/manual-2.html#ss2.2
> ...[snip]...
> <snip>
> I noticed several things with this page.  First of all, if I follow the
> links from the L-page, the URLs aren't replaced when I come back to the
> L-page, providing I don't go back to the page this L-page was derived from.
> Once I do that, invoking the L-page again shows me the titles instead.
> 
> However, all is not lost.  When a title replaces a URL with an anchor
> (the part after the #), the title is preceded by the word "in" and followed
> by a space, hyphen, space, anchor.  You've lost the address (or at least it
> isn't as readily available - you can still get it if you need it), but
> you haven't really lost the information you think you've lost.  All those
> leading ins and trailing anchors tell you which links refer to the same
> document.
> 
> Also, the word "next" in the first few links is replaced by the title of
> the document if you follow any of those links, and then the next document
> with multiple anchors becomes "next" until you view that one, and so on.
> 
> Is there something I'm missing, or is there another reason you want to
> see the actual URLs?
> 
> Chuck
>