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Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Colin Campbell)


From: jeff
Subject: Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Colin Campbell)
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 22:45:14 +0200
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No it's only a one way point-and-click from the pdf and not as smooth and fast as Fresco.

It's not as complete as Fresco but when you're a vim-centric guy on different project your're looking for interaction with your linux system and this plugin becomes really helpful for that.

And his maintenance will evolve, for sure.

Here is some more about Simon.

https://github.com/martineausimon/lilypond-lib

Jeff


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Today's Topics:

    1. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Colin Campbell)
    2. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak)
       (Jeff Kopmanis)
    3. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Pierre-Luc Gauthier)
    4. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Hajo Baess)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 13:59:12 -0600
From: Colin Campbell <cpkc.music@shaw.ca>
To: Kenneth Flak <kennethflak@protonmail.com>, Werner LEMBERG
        <wl@gnu.org>
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
Message-ID: <c1b30491-ca50-4234-afbf-a68d987913c7@shaw.ca>
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This looks really good, Ken. I'm going to do a general tidy up on the
Easier Editing page, but I hope to have something up for review in a day
or two. I've installed neovim, but to save a bit of time: is the
point-and-click two-way, like Frescobaldi, or from PDF to code only?


Cheers,

Colin

On 2024-05-01 22:33, Kenneth Flak wrote:
OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed!

Kenneth


Neovim

https://neovim.io

Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and 
configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond 
support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin 
(https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports 
playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using a 
supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other 
plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim 
ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github 
page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online 
tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing 
experience.


Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49:
Maybe one of you two can provide some text for

     https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing
It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation
was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or
so.
Aaah :-)

If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll
be glad to turn it into a patch.
This would be great!  Thanks for the offer.


      Werner




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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 16:04:17 -0400
From: Jeff Kopmanis <kopmanis@gmail.com>
To: jeff <flechesensible@gmail.com>
Cc: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak)
Message-ID:
        <CACMBJtRpjGB=tUPtwZ2ogPxeCtKMgZhpbciu6pvR51jyvPwvdw@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I kicked the tires with VScode and the VSLilypond extension set, and it
worked pretty well.  I'm not sure I figured out how to *automagically* update
the PDF display, all I had to do was to close and reopen the file and it
was there.  Clicking on a note in the PDF viewer took me right to the text
and clicking on text and asking for it to find it in the PDF worked as
well.  Syntax highlighting and completion worked nicely as well as the
formatting.  Compiling worked nicely, although in some cases, my files
generate some warnings that Frescobaldi did not.  I suspect different
compile options that could be worked out over time.

Overall, a reasonable replacement if Frescobaldi goes away....until then,
Frescobaldi is still easier.

-Jeff. :)

On Thu, May 2, 2024 at 3:57 PM jeff <flechesensible@gmail.com> wrote:

Well done Kenneth! I don't have anything better to say. Maybe asking
Simon Martineau is thoughts about that. And thanks to Werner for the
proposal. It feels a little bit like I'm a part of the game, haha. I have
more than 20 scores to transpose on lilypond so I'm here to stay a little
longer and read and learn from you.
Jeff

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Today's Topics:

    1. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Raphael Mankin)
    2. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Knute Snortum)
    3. Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives? (Kenneth Flak)
    4. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Hans Aikema)
    5. Re: \after … \beforeLast? (Lukas-Fabian Moser)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 2 May 2024 18:07:33 +0100
From: Raphael Mankin <raph@mankin.org.uk> <raph@mankin.org.uk>
To: lilypond-user@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Frescobaldi... panic alternatives?
Message-ID: <474001f7-e9c0-4759-8106-174a0bb41fa8@mankin.org.uk> 
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This is a much better description of Neovim than exists on any  of the
Neovim web-sites. They all jump straight into detail without telling one
what the whole thing is about. I struggled to work out what Neovim is,
or why I should want to use it.

On 02/05/2024 05:33, Kenneth Flak wrote:

OK, giving it a shot... Feel free to edit as needed!

Kenneth


Neovim
https://neovim.io

Neovim is a minimal text editor and fork of vim. It is highly extensible and 
configurable through the vimscript and lua programming languages. Lilypond 
support is provided by the nvim-lilypond-suite plugin 
(https://github.com/martineausimon/nvim-lilypond-suite). The plugin supports 
playback of midi files through external programs; point-and-click when using a 
supported PDF viewer; snippets and code completion when combined with other 
plugins; in addition to the full range of tools available in the neovim 
ecosystem. For more details on how to set it up consult the plugin's github 
page. You will also want to spend some time with some of the numerous online 
tutorials for learning vim/neovim to get the most out of your editing 
experience.


Werner LEMBERG, May 02, 2024 at 05:49:

Maybe one of you two can provide some text for

     https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.24/Documentation/web/easier-editing

It happens that my first contribution to the Lilypond documentation
was a rewrite of the Easier Editing section, some 14 years ago or
so.

Aaah :-)


If either or both care to send me their thoughts and comments, I'll
be glad to turn it into a patch.

This would be great!  Thanks for the offer.


      Werner


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