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Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac
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Carl Sorensen |
Subject: |
Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac |
Date: |
Tue, 5 Mar 2019 16:28:24 +0000 |
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On 3/4/19, 10:20 PM, "Mason Hock" <address@hidden> wrote:
On 03/02, Carl Sorensen wrote:
> We cannot use our regular build system to create LilyPond binaries due to
Apple’s restrictive licensing on the OSX SDK.
Could you explain briefly or link to why this is? I understand that the
App Store's restrictions would violate the GPL, and that Apple avoids
distributing anything under GPLv3, presumably to avoid the tivoization
clause, but I was not aware of any restrictions on what developers could
independently build for macOS and distribute.
We build LilyPond on a Linux system, where all binaries are created by a
cross-compiler as part of GUB. The system that hosts the build is not an Apple
system, and in fact, with our current hosting system, we don't even know what
kind of hardware is in use at any given moment.
The Apple Xcode license is available at
https://www.apple.com/legal/sla/docs/xcode.pdf.
Paragraph 2.2.A gives the right to
"A. Install a reasonable number of copies of the Apple Software on
Apple-branded computers that
are owned or controlled by You to be used internally by You or Your Authorized
Developers only as
follows:
(i) You may use the Xcode Developer Tools to test and develop application and
other software;
(ii) You may use the macOS SDKs to test and develop application and other
software;"
Paragraph 2.2.B. gives the right to
"B. Use Provisioning Profiles to install Your Applications onto a reasonable,
limited number of
Authorized Test Units solely for use by You and/or Your Authorized Developers
and only for internal
testing and development of Your Applications, or for Your own personal,
non-commercial use."
Paragraph 2.7 limits the use.
"2.7 Restrictions; No Other Permitted Uses
The grants set forth in this Agreement do not permit You to, and You agree not
to, install, use or run the
Apple Software or Apple Services on any non-Apple-branded computer or device,
or to enable others to
do so. This Agreement does not allow the Apple Software or Services to be made
available over a
network where they could be run or used by multiple computers at the same time,
unless otherwise
expressly permitted in writing by Apple. Further, unless otherwise expressly
permitted by Apple in
writing, You agree not to rent, lease, lend, upload to or host on any website
or server, sell, redistribute, or
sublicense the Apple Software and Apple Services, in whole or in part, or to
enable others to do so."
Our current build system doesn't use the Apple SDK; instead it uses a Darwin
SDK which was created for use with open-source software. Darwin is not
currently under development; the replacement for Darwin does not yet have an
SDK (and may not be able to get one, because of Apple's prohibition on
reverse-engineering the SDK.
I don't know if anybody has tried building 64-bit executables in GUB using the
current Darwin SDK. If that works, we'd have a regular build. But I don't
think that's a feasible path forward long-term.
The Homebrew/MacPorts build instructions have the user download Xcode, thereby
providing a copy of the SDK to the user that wants to build a copy of lilypond.
This is consistent with the Apple license.
It seems we have four choices for providing Mac OSX executables going forward,
if the current SDK won't build 64-bit binaries:
1) Provide users the ability to build their own executable.
2) Have somebody who owns a Mac build the lilypond executable and upload it to
the website.
3) Develop GUB to run on OSX and have someone who owns a Mac take
responsibility for running the GUB builds on OSX
4) Develop GUB to run in a VM on OSX, with links to the downloaded SDK on the
Mac host, and have someone who owns a Mac take responsibility for running the
GUB builds on the VM
I wish we had a better possibility, but I think that's all there is.
Carl
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, (continued)
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, David Kastrup, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Sven Axelsson, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, David Kastrup, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Kieren MacMillan, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Karlin High, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Kieren MacMillan, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Karlin High, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, David Kastrup, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, David Kastrup, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, David Kastrup, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac,
Carl Sorensen <=
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, David Kastrup, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Karlin High, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, David Kastrup, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Austin Blaser, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Karlin High, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Austin Blaser, 2019/03/05
- RE: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Steven Weber, 2019/03/05
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Hans Åberg, 2019/03/06
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Karlin High, 2019/03/07
- Re: LilyPond 64-bit version for a Mac, Karlin High, 2019/03/07