Re: Error reporting and Lilypond Linting

> From: Guy Stalnaker <address@hidden>

> Subject: Error reporting and Lilypond Linting

> I ask this question knowing some of Lilypond's developers frequent this list -- is there anyway to get better error reporting/logging?

Sorry, I can't speak to your main question.

> So, though multi-measure rest errors were there, they were
> not of much practical use because the lilypond source is
> several thousand lines long and there are hundreds of
> multi-measure rests in the dozen-plus parts. I eventually
> had to resort to the binary method of breaking the source
> in two, commenting part B, compiling part A, etc. to slowly
> eliminate working source to find the failing source.

To be clear, I don't disagree with any of your suggestions for improving lilypond's logging.

However, this particular issue can be mitigated by breaking your source up into more manageable sections. Why should part B need to wrangle with anything from part A? That's seems like a liability without much upside.

In any kind of coding, after a few hundred lines, you should probably consider refactoring. Multiple thousands of lines of source per file is just way too much to manage in most contexts, and is rarely necessary.

Maybe the next time you have such an error, rather than doing a binary search, you could start by reorganizing your file structure in a way that allows you to build individual targets.

If that sounds interesting, feel free to send me your file and I could make some suggestions as to how to restructure it.

Again, sorry I can't help specifically with the logging output.

HTH,

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1. Re:Remove all occurrencies of "0" fingerings (David Kastrup)
2. Re:Alignment problem (Menu Jacques)
3. Re:Vertical alignment of custom dynamics (Gregor Smith)
4. Error reporting and Lilypond Linting (Guy Stalnaker)

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From: David Kastrup <address@hidden>
To: Marc Hohl <address@hidden>
Cc: Thomas Morley <address@hidden>, Lilypond-User <address@hidden>
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Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 18:44:01 +0200
Subject: Re: Remove all occurrencies of "0" fingerings
Marc Hohl <address@hidden> writes:

> Am 08.08.2017 um 13:00 schrieb Thomas Morley:
>> 2017-08-08 12:47 GMT+02:00 David Kastrup <address@hidden>:
>>
>>>
>>> You can do this by using
>> [...]
>>
>> Nice one. I always forget about 'grob-transformer'. Missing bracket, tho'
>
> I wasn't aware of grob-transformer at all. And I am still unsure about
> what it does. I have read the doc string, though.

It gives your function both the grob and the value (callbacks and
unpure/pure containers already resolved) that _would_ get calculated
without your override in place.

That can be handy when your function just wants to modify the default,
or if the default is only used sometimes. To use it, you don't need to
know whether the default is a constant, a function, or an unpure/pure
container.

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From: Menu Jacques <address@hidden>
To: "Manuela Gößnitzer" <address@hidden>
Cc: Menu Jacques <address@hidden>, Phil Holmes <address@hidden>, Lilypond-User Mailing List <address@hidden>
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 19:26:40 +0200
Subject: Re: Alignment problem
Hello Manuela,

+2, thanks, using two markups is both elegant and simple!

JM

Le 8 août 2017 à 12:18, Manuela Gößnitzer <address@hidden> a écrit :

What about

\relative b, {
\key g \major
\clef "bass"
\time 3/4

\textLengthOn
d4 _\markup{\italic "Fine"}
\fermata
g4- \markup { \dynamic "f" }
b4
}

2017-08-07 15:18 GMT+02:00 Phil Holmes <address@hidden>:
It does, but only if you attach the markup to the note. As it turns out, it still _just_ collides with the forte, so adding a space to the end of "fine" solves this. However, they still don't align since they are both avoiding note stems of different lengths.

\relative b, {
\key g \major
\clef "bass"
\time 3/4

\textLengthOn
d4 _\markup{\italic "Fine "}
\fermata
g4 \f
b4
}

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jacques Menu" <address@hidden>
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Subject: Re: Alignment problem

Hello Phil,

\textLengthOn doesn't solve the problem, thanks anyway!

JM

Jacques Menu, iPhone

Le 7 août 2017 à 08:19, Menu Jacques <address@hidden> a écrit :

Hello folks,

Can the « Fine » and « f » be on the same horizontal line while remaining attached to two differents notes, without using any separate dynamics voice?

Thanks!

JM

\version "2.19.55"

\relative b, {
\key g \major
\clef "bass"
\time 3/4

d4
\fermata _\markup{\italic "Fine"}
g4 \f
b4
}

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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 19:57:20 +0100
Subject: Re: Vertical alignment of custom dynamics
Thanks, that worked. Had to change the horizontal alignment but now I have exactly what I was looking for.

On 6 August 2017 at 00:46, Martin Neubauer <address@hidden> wrote:

On 06/08/2017 00:19, Gregor Smith wrote:
> \version "2.16.0"
>
> \include "common.ly"
>
> upper = \relative c'' {
> \clef treble
> \key c \major
> \time 2/4
> c2
> \repeat volta 2 {
> d | e
> }
> }
>
>
> lower = \relative c' {
> \clef bass
> \key c \major
> \time 2/4
> c2
> \repeat volta 2 {
> d | e
> }
> }
>
> mpf = \markup { \dynamic { mp } "-" \dynamic { f } }
mpf = #(make-dynamic-script "mp - f")

or a little more elaborate:

mpf = #(make-dynamic-script
(markup #:dynamic "mp"
#:normal-text #:italic #:bold "-"
#:dynamic "f"))
(The latter form isn't necessarily preferable in this instance, but
gives you an example how to achieve more fine-grained control over the
formatting if needed.)
>
> dynamics = {
> s2\mp
> \repeat volta 2 {
> s2-\mpf | R2
> }
> }
>
>
>
> \score {
>
> \new PianoStaff <<
> \new Staff = "upper" \upper
> \new Dynamics = "dynamics" \dynamics
> \new Staff = "lower" \lower
> >>
> }
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Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 15:48:16 -0500
Subject: Error reporting and Lilypond Linting
All,

I ask this question knowing some of Lilypond's developers frequent this list -- is there anyway to get better error reporting/logging? I ask for several reasons.

One is that the current log output when -verbose is enabled is FULL of lines relating to font substitution. Over 80% of the output, in fact. When trouble-shooting output errors related to lilypond code, those font-related lines just obfuscate the meaningful output. Could we get something like "LOG: font substitution" "LOG: font substitution 100 more times"?

Two, we all know how the smallest error, in the case I have in mind a closing brace } one line off, can cause an explosion of error output. In this same case every reported error referencing a lilypond source line was, of course, an error; but not one of them were related to the actual error, that misplaced brace, which was near m.20 and not m.86 which was the focus of all of the log output referencing a source file line number. There may be nothing that can be done about that, of course, but if there were some type of WARNING process that recognized (!) mal-formed, or simply bad code, our lives might be a bit easier (though lilypond developers lives might not be easier). Alternatively, do any of you know of any kind of well-formedness checking, linting, for lilypond code?

Third, some log output lines do not reference a line in the lilypond source file. Again, in this case, the eventual resolution related to multi-measure rests (that closing brace } "covered" the multi-measure rest because it was after and not before the multi-measure rest). But none of log lines which indicated a multi-measure rest error referenced a line in the lilypond source. So, though multi-measure rest errors were there, they were not of much practical use because the lilypond source is several thousand lines long and there are hundreds of multi-measure rests in the dozen-plus parts. I eventually had to resort to the binary method of breaking the source in two, commenting part B, compiling part A, etc. to slowly eliminate working source to find the failing source.

GuyS

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