Re: Lines or Boxes without reference to score or stave

[Guy Stalnaker]

David,

By placed I simply meant that the creator of the final document has to incorporate the music into their document using their preferred editing tool (I don't even know what it is, PageMaker, Publisher, etc.). They are also not well-verserd in the use of image files, etc. and their understanding of how dragging object handles affects final clarity is less than optimal. They know what they know.

I'm trying to help them understand that my score output can work in their document with as little (hopefully even NO) modification on their part. One way is to show them that the music as engraved will "fit" on their pages as is and having an output file that shows them the boundaries of their page and margins will help them, hopefully and literally, see that this is so. I can set modify my output in various sizes, yet all "within the box" and they can make decisions about which output is best for use (I've actually created five different output files changing #(set-global-staff-size 12) for each.

Right now I'm giving them PDF. I can as easily give them other image formats (which I have done in the past) to be incorporated into their document.

And I mistyped my original. It is not "start 1.5" from top *margin*" but from "top of page".

Thanks for your reply.

Guy

Guy Stalnaker
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On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 12:22 PM, David Wright <address@hidden> wrote:

On Thu 06 Apr 2017 at 10:33:03 (-0500), Guy Stalnaker wrote:
> All,
>
> I've done a search for this in the documentation and list archives, but
> because the only terms I can think to search with (line, box, draw) are so
> common, I cannot get useful results.

You may also be looking for a workflow which will depend on what
tools you are comfortable with or involve least learning.

> What I want to do is put a box, visually, around the engraved score, but
> independent of the engraved score. There will be two boxes, one (dashed or
> dotted) representing the margins of the document, and another .25" larger
> that represents a paper-size (this has to do with providing engraved music
> output that will be placed on non-standard sized paper by another person).
> The boxes show them where their margins/paper is on the engraving to allow
> them a sense for how much space the score will consume in their final
> document.

What do you mean by "placed". Do you mean they're printing the
document or just cutting the paper at some marks? If the former,
what type of file do you give them? PDF, powerpoint, word?

> This is basically four straight lines, two horizontal and two vertical but
> with reference to absolute page positioning, e.g., Line1: start 1.5" down
> from top margin and 1" in from left margin and draw horizontal for 7.5",
> Line2: start 1.5" down from top margin and 1" in from left margin and draw
> down 8.0", etc.. Everything that I've seen thus far are markup of some kind
> that are entered in reference to the score or, with the Notation Reference
> entries for \draw-hline for example, only seem to draw a line wherever the
> markup is place and not at an absolute position.
>
> I can, of course, output to png, open png in image editor and add the boxes
> manually, but it would be easier :-) to do this in lilypond. Maybe.

I would avoid using PNG. It's a rasterised format, so you could
have resolution issues.

I have ideas, but they're entirely dependent on what the next link
in your process is.

Cheers,
David.