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Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments


From: Pierre Perol-Schneider
Subject: Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:15:03 +0200

Thanks, just downloaded, I'll take a close look.
Cheers,
Pierre

2016-07-19 19:31 GMT+02:00 Mark Stephen Mrotek <address@hidden>:

Pierre,

 

Arnold Dolmetsch in his The Interpretation of the Music of the 17th and 18th Centuries, provides a list of “signs” with examples of execution.

 

Mark

 

From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=address@hidden] On Behalf Of Pierre Perol-Schneider
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:06 AM
To: Andrew Bernard <address@hidden>
Cc: Michael Rivers <address@hidden>; lilypond-user <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments

 

Are these glyphs and explanation accurate?

(Actually, the example taken to draw my glyph was: http://imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/c/c7/IMSLP351896-PMLP568401-Purcell_CorantZ644.pdf)

Cheers,

Pierre

 

2016-07-19 9:49 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider <address@hidden>:

Or even:

shake =
-\tweak stencil #(lambda (grob)(grob-interpret-markup grob purcell-shake-glyph))
\trill

Cheers,

Pierre

 

2016-07-19 9:44 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider <address@hidden>:

Hi Andrew,

Interesting question.

I'm not familiar with Purcell's work but what I found on IMSLP was that this shake is used as (e.g.) a trill.

So how about :

\version "2.19.45"

purcell-shake-glyph =
\markup\stencil
  #(make-path-stencil
     '(M -0.20  0.05 L  1.55  0.51 M -0.31  0.43 L  1.45  0.90)
     0.17 1 1 #f)
    
shake =
#(define-event-function () ()
   #{
     -\tweak stencil #(lambda (grob)(grob-interpret-markup grob purcell-shake-glyph))
     \trill #})

%% Test:
{
  a'\shake
}

Cheers,

Pierre

 

2016-07-19 2:34 GMT+02:00 Andrew Bernard <address@hidden>:

Hi Pierre,

 

Wouldn’t it be better to do these are actual ornaments instead of just markup? I say this because there is a page on the lilyond blog regarding this, but it is only partially complete. If we did them as ornaments the possibility would arise of being able to use them to set English Virginal Music which uses the slash and double slash, through the stem, extensively - although as folks have noted, nobody really knows what they mean.

 

Since I am a harpsichord player I am one day going to do all the many varieties of the French keyboard ornaments, a rich and flowering garden, so I  have just now taken an interest in this thread.

 

Andrew

 

 

 

 



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