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From: | Pierre Perol-Schneider |
Subject: | Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments |
Date: | Tue, 19 Jul 2016 20:15:03 +0200 |
Pierre,
Arnold Dolmetsch in his The Interpretation of the Music of the 17th and 18th Centuries, provides a list of “signs” with examples of execution.
Mark
From: lilypond-user [mailto:lilypond-user-bounces+carsonmark=address@hidden] On Behalf Of Pierre Perol-Schneider
Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 1:06 AM
To: Andrew Bernard <address@hidden>
Cc: Michael Rivers <address@hidden>; lilypond-user <address@hidden>
Subject: Re: 17th century English kbd ornaments
BTW, I found this : http://home.insightbb.com/~cratonkiwi/music/orn3.jpg
Are these glyphs and explanation accurate?
(Actually, the example taken to draw my glyph was: http://imslp.nl/imglnks/usimg/c/c7/IMSLP351896-PMLP568401-Purcell_CorantZ644.pdf)
Cheers,
Pierre
2016-07-19 9:49 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider <address@hidden>:
Or even:
shake =
-\tweak stencil #(lambda (grob)(grob-interpret-markup grob purcell-shake-glyph))
\trillCheers,
Pierre
2016-07-19 9:44 GMT+02:00 Pierre Perol-Schneider <address@hidden>:
Hi Andrew,
Interesting question.
I'm not familiar with Purcell's work but what I found on IMSLP was that this shake is used as (e.g.) a trill.
So how about :
\version "2.19.45"
purcell-shake-glyph =
\markup\stencil
#(make-path-stencil
'(M -0.20 0.05 L 1.55 0.51 M -0.31 0.43 L 1.45 0.90)
0.17 1 1 #f)
shake =
#(define-event-function () ()
#{
-\tweak stencil #(lambda (grob)(grob-interpret-markup grob purcell-shake-glyph))
\trill #})
%% Test:
{
a'\shake
}Cheers,
Pierre
2016-07-19 2:34 GMT+02:00 Andrew Bernard <address@hidden>:
Hi Pierre,
Wouldn’t it be better to do these are actual ornaments instead of just markup? I say this because there is a page on the lilyond blog regarding this, but it is only partially complete. If we did them as ornaments the possibility would arise of being able to use them to set English Virginal Music which uses the slash and double slash, through the stem, extensively - although as folks have noted, nobody really knows what they mean.
Since I am a harpsichord player I am one day going to do all the many varieties of the French keyboard ornaments, a rich and flowering garden, so I have just now taken an interest in this thread.
Andrew
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