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Re: Fwd: Re: install frescoba 2.18.2 in Ubuntu


From: David Wright
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: install frescoba 2.18.2 in Ubuntu
Date: Thu, 3 Mar 2016 11:08:49 -0600
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15)

On Thu 03 Mar 2016 at 09:37:55 (+0100), Blöchl Bernhard wrote:
> 
> 
> -------- Originalnachricht --------
> Betreff: Re: install frescoba 2.18.2 in Ubuntu
> Datum: 03.03.2016 09:03
> Von: Blöchl Bernhard <address@hidden>
> An: address@hidden
> 
> The headline in the original post was not correctly positioned! The
> subsequent text to it was NOT written by David Wright but lies in my
> own responsibility. The headline should only referencing the
> citation. Sorry for my mistake. Here the corrected version:
> 
> I did not read the complete thread and after reading the last
> posting I will not do that.

I have no idea which posting you mean by "last posting". "Last"
is particularly ambiguous in English; we do not even have the
distinction in meaning made AIUI by the position of "dernier"
in French.

> That is a collection of citation of
> unverified storys, opinions and wishes.

... So I have no idea of what _your_ opinion refers to, which
means it's impossible to agree or disagree with you. That's why
we normally quote what we're referring to on mailing lists.

> I do not understand the
> central problem and how to address it to lilypond? And Frescobaldi
> AFAIK is anothert development team?

I don't understand why you've written question marks here.
Are you implying that someone has stated that "you do not understand
the central problem and how to address it to lilypond" and that you
disagree with them? If so, who implied it, and where?

I can't parse the construction "And Frescobaldi as far as I know is
another development team?". If _you_ don't know what you know, how can
anyone else?

> Am 03.03.2016 06:40, schrieb David Wright:
> 
> >>But even better, use a apt-get ppa repository, this you keep u to
> >>date your self, without being dependant of Debian.

For the second time, you have posted that David Wright wrote something
that David Wright didn't. Please take more care with your postings.

> The content and versions of a repository are in the responsibility
> and taste of the package manager(s) and usually can not simply be
> affected by the software developers, say lilypond or frescobaldi
> development team. A repository is a COLLECTION of software for a
> particular linux version

I agree with all that.

> - you want a "repository" only contending
> lilypond/frescobaldi? Who should do that?

I don't want anything; this isn't _my_ problem. There was an original
problem that "Bernard <address@hidden>" was having, coping
with mixing an ubuntu distribution with software downloaded from
elsewhere:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-02/msg00758.html
Then there was a discussion about clarifying some instructions, but I
don't know which instructions were being discussed becaues that wasn't
made clear with a precise reference:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-02/msg00772.html
There followed a posting which contained "But even better, use a
apt-get ppa repository, this you keep u to date your self, without
being dependant of Debian" which is what I commented on:
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2016-02/msg00773.html
This posting appeared to me to be muddling up different distributions
(Debian, ubuntu), different ways of installing software (package
managers, direct installation of upstream software), software that had
and didn't have (versioned or absolute) dependencies (lilypond,
frescobaldi, python-ly, pyqt4, pyqt5).

It did not appear to me that progress was going to be made in
clarifying instructions (whichever ones are being discussed) unless
the terms people used were better defined, and naked version numbers
were avoided particularly as the main players have identical or
closely identical version numbers at present. It's no effort to write
LP 2.18.2 or F 2.16.2.

> For clarification best would be to target your problem precisely for
> a simple minded reader.

Cheers,
David.



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