Hi Kevin,
Am 27.04.2015 um 16:18 schrieb Kevin
Barry:
Dear All,
Three recent threads (are we the future, mutopia, and new
users' feelings about the docs) have prompted me to start a
new one rather than write separate replies to each. Apologies
in advance for the length, but I would be very grateful for
some replies.
I am very happy to say that a module I offered at the
university where I teach, on preparing scores with lilypond,
has been taken up by the students (whether the course runs or
not is their choice so I consider it a democratic victory!),
and will run for twelve weeks this forthcoming
October-December. I will have about ten sophister B.A.
students (music students at the end of their degrees).
Congratulations!
The scope of the course will be to teach some of the finer
points of engraving (Gould is the module reference text) and
then get them to produce their own editions of
out-of-copyright scores which we will then try to upload to
mutopia (and perhaps imslp, but I haven't looked into that).
So a few things:
1. I'm viewing this as an opportunity to `turn' a few of
our students (who mostly seem to use pirated copies of
Sibelius). I haven't researched the module yet but I hope that
I will have some exemplary scores to show off LilyPond when
the time comes around. The only commercially available one
that I am aware of is Urs and Janek's Fried songbook. (By the
way, I read in another thread that they sold framed A3 pages
from it - are they still doing that? I would love one) If
anyone can point me in the direction of more LilyPond-engraved
material that would be great.
What I know from the community is
https://edition-kainhofer.com/de/ and
http://www.xn--schne-noten-tfb.de/
The framed A3 pages were an item in our (failed) crowdfunding
initiative to make the edition free. As nobody took that one we
didn't actually produce one, so nothing is "in stock". However, one
could always think about that.
2. There seems to be a consensus among a small group here
that LilyPond's default output isn't really publishing
standard.
Definitely not. But I don't think *any* notation program does that.
IMO LilyPond's default output is much closer to publishing standard
than Finale's or Sibelius' (I don't know about Amadeus or SCORE).
But there are two different things to this topic: The overall layout
and appearance and the detail engraving issues.
The latter is the question of how many items you have to touch and
fix to get the details to your publication standards, the former the
issue of global settings.
I've never engraved a full score with it (I do examples and
diagrams for my own work or the work of other academics), so
I've never really bumped up against this issue. Can anyone
list the things that they routinely improve? I know Kieran and
some others proposed creating some stylesheets to help in this
area (and somewhere I have a very nice engraving of the first
page of Beethoven's Op. 10 sonatas) - was there any progress
with that?
Partially.
There is at least the place ready for it in openLilyLib, and some
thought has been given about a possible interface and code design -
but not too much. This is "blocked" by my work on font selection.
I've written about my progress on a font selection interface in this
post:
http://lilypondblog.org/2015/03/managing-alternative-fonts-with-lilypond/
But while continuing my work on that track I realized that some if
not most of the work should go into LilyPond itself. So currently
I'm preparing a patch that will significantly simplify and enhance
the possibilities to switch text and music fonts in LilyPond. Only
when that's ready and through I will continue with the stylesheets
library (not only because of the time but of course because that
relies on the font interface).
I think when the time is ready I'll ask for some discussion here.
3. Since I will, in effect, be creating a tutorial for new
LilyPond users, perhaps I could encourage some collaboration
here, and make the results freely available. MuseScore has an
excellent series of tutorial videos, for example.
You know http://benlemon.me/blog/music/lilypond/operation-lilypond
?
I'm not necessarily saying that format would be best for
LilyPond, but I do think there is room in the ecosystem for a
tutorial in addition to the (excellent) learning manual, which
I paid a considerable price in terms of time for not reading
more thoroughly the first time around...
Definitely. If someone takes responsibility for this it would be
great.
Urs
Thanks for reading,
Kevin
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