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Re: Beaming and grace notes
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Shane Brandes |
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Re: Beaming and grace notes |
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Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:31:30 -0500 |
a short snippet for educational use constitutes fair use.
S.
On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Knute Snortum <address@hidden> wrote:
> You are correct; the original is missing a treble clef. I am using an early
> edition that has passed into public domain to transcribe, but so far I've
> found three errors in the score. I'm using a later edition to double check
> from but I'm still transcribing from the earlier one so my transcription is
> free of any copyright. I should have using the later edition for the
> example.
>
>
> Knute Snortum
> (via Gmail)
>
> On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 2:56 AM, Rutger Hofman <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Is the original correct? I would guess that a treble clef has been
>> forgotten in the upper staff, at the moment the staff is crossed in the
>> "grace note" run. How else can the run, and especially the cross-staff
>> chords in the last four 1/32 notes make sense?
>>
>> Rutger
>>
>> On 11/29/2014 07:49 PM, Knute Snortum wrote:
>>>
>>> Ah, I see. Use two voices so one is the eighth note and the other is
>>> the grace notes with their duration divided over the eighth. This also
>>> gets me the slur. Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>> Knute Snortum
>>> (via Gmail)
>>>
>>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Keith OHara <address@hidden
>>> <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 07:44:39 -0800, Knute Snortum
>>> <address@hidden <mailto:address@hidden>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Thank you both for your relies. Keith, your second suggestion
>>> is what I
>>> need, if I could designate a zero length note.
>>>
>>> Requirements:
>>>
>>> * An actual eighth note
>>> * Grace notes need to "attached" with a beam to the eighth note
>>> * Grace notes add no duration to the measure
>>>
>>> I've attached a picture of the measure. It has a lot of
>>> challenges in it
>>> for me.
>>>
>>>
>>> These small notes are not what LilyPond's \grace was designed for,
>>> but more like the small-note tuplet that Harm pointed out. We want
>>> these note to be spaced across the beat, but more quickly than their
>>> visible duration.
>>>
>>> LilyPond will do most of the beaming you want if you tell her how
>>> the music splits into two voices at the E-flat. Ignoring the fact
>>> that there are two staves for the moment, try something like this:
>>>
>>> \version "2.18.2"
>>> {
>>> \key des\major \clef bass \time 2/4
>>> aes32 bes aes ges
>>> <<
>>> {\voiceTwo ees8 ~ ees4 |}
>>> \new Voice {
>>> \voiceOne
>>> \scaleDurations 4/14 {
>>> ees32[
>>> \teeny
>>> \override Stem #'no-stem-extend = ##t
>>> \override Stem #'length-fraction = #0.7
>>> ges aes bes des' ges, bes, c des f] ges[ bes c' des']
>>> \normalsize
>>> \revert Stem #'no-stem-extend
>>> \revert Stem #'length-fraction
>>> }
>>> f'16-> des'
>>> c32 des c bes,| } >> }
>>>
>>> We should probably put a Debussy example in the user manual (if he's
>>> in public domain in europe by now) and also make a shorthand for
>>> \graceStyleOn \graceStyleOff because often we want the style but do
>>> not want LilyPond's \grace timing.
>>>
>>>
>>
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- Beaming and grace notes, Knute Snortum, 2014/11/27
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Keith OHara, 2014/11/27
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Thomas Morley, 2014/11/27
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Knute Snortum, 2014/11/29
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Keith OHara, 2014/11/29
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Urs Liska, 2014/11/29
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Knute Snortum, 2014/11/29
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Rutger Hofman, 2014/11/30
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Knute Snortum, 2014/11/30
- Re: Beaming and grace notes,
Shane Brandes <=
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Rutger Hofman, 2014/11/30
- Re: Beaming and grace notes, Keith OHara, 2014/11/30