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Re: Melismata and slur with a new syllable at the end


From: tisimst
Subject: Re: Melismata and slur with a new syllable at the end
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2014 13:42:30 -0700 (PDT)

Jacques,

The problem is that the melisma you are copying continues through the last note where you want to put the "o". If it MUST be that way, there are actually a couple of ways to do it. Here's one (use a phrasingSlur):

%<-------------------- SNIP --------------------

\version "2.18.2"

Alto = \relative {
  \time 2/4
  d'16 \( [ e f d ] e4 |  % <--- CONVERT TO PHRASING SLUR
  f4 \)
}

AltoLyricsOne = \lyricmode {
  De -- _ _ _ _ o % <--- USE UNDERSCORES TO CREATE MELISMA
}

<<
  \new Staff \with {
    instrumentName = "Alto"
  }{
    \new Voice = "Alto" { \Alto }
  }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "Alto" \AltoLyricsOne
>>

%<-------------------- SNIP --------------------

 The single underscores are indicators for notes that get included into the melisma. This is the manual way to do it and takes more effort since you need to count out the correct number of underscores.

Now, I think that this is the correct way to do it:

%<-------------------- SNIP --------------------

 \version "2.18.2"

Alto = \relative {
  \time 2/4
  d'16 ( [ e f d ] e4 ) |  % <--- SLUR ENDS HERE
  f4 
}

AltoLyricsOne = \lyricmode {
  De -- o
}

<<
  \new Staff \with {
    instrumentName = "Alto"
  }{
    \new Voice = "Alto" { \Alto }
  }
  \new Lyrics \lyricsto "Alto" \AltoLyricsOne
>>

%<-------------------- SNIP --------------------

The real problem is that while "De" gets all the notes in the first measure, the slur in the picture you sent seems to indicate that the "De" syllable should continue to the next one too, which isn't true. The error thus arises because the "o" syllable has NO NOTE to attach to when you use the slur "(" syntax, which then means the hyphen extender "--" also has no text to extend between. Moving the end of the slur to the last note in the first measure ends the duration of "De" at the correct time and allows "o" to be attached to its proper note.

If it were me, I would choose the second snippet because it provides the correct syllabic intent for the singer. But if for some reason you needed to replicate the picture exactly, then the first snippet will do that for you.

HTH,
Abraham

On Fri, Oct 31, 2014 at 2:17 PM, Jacques Menu [via Lilypond] <[hidden email]> wrote:
Hello folks,

I’ve been strugging to obtain the following, but couldn’t find any way to achieve it in the docs.

Attached is a failed attempt.

Thanks for your help!

JM





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