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Re: Changing the thickness of clusters


From: Joshua Nichols
Subject: Re: Changing the thickness of clusters
Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 00:34:33 -0600

Shane,

Wow. Thank you! :) What you have provided is certainly MUCH MUCH better than what I had before... 

I will certainly play with this, and report back any substantial finds. This is very helpful.

IC,

Josh


On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 10:47 PM, Shane Brandes <address@hidden> wrote:
Josh,

Rummaging around I discovered this.
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/clusterspannerbeacon

It looks like the y extent is hard coded.

But also found this
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.18/Documentation/internals/cluster_002dinterface

It seems to indicate that the style can be changed and offers several varieties.

Therefore after fiddling a bit with the semi inscrutable instructions
I tried these two things. The padding value -.25 seems as small as it
wants to go. Maybe other values would work better, just did some
guesswork on that. It is really easy to make wonderfully large blobs
of clustery goodness by making arbitrary positive values.

\version "2.18.0"


\relative c' \makeClusters { \override ClusterSpanner.padding =
#'-0.25 b2 d' a f f4 g a b f f a a d4 e f g a b c b f g g g a g }


\relative c' \makeClusters { \override ClusterSpanner.style =
#'leftsided-stairs b2 d' a f f4 g a b f f a a d4 e f g a b c b f g g g
a g }

Shane


On Sat, Jan 4, 2014 at 1:10 AM, Joshua Nichols <address@hidden> wrote:
>> I am absolutely baffled by this question.
>
>
> Tell me about it.
>
>> ...it might be simplest to reduce
>> the note head sizes. Tried it that does not work either.
>
>
> Same here.
>
>> What on earth are clusters good for anyway? Aleatoric strangeness.
>
>
> You are right, and I am definitely not a fan nor in agreement with clusters
> and other types of graphical notation, but I am working for people who do
> favor them, and I need to be able to do at least some of it (I draw the line
> at hand-drawn graphs like Crumb and Cage, where even the publishers wouldn't
> touch it).
>
> But, this kind of notation is really useful for outlining general cues in
> pre-recorded tracks (hence my email). But, I understand if this has "never"
> been asked before; It would be cool to see where LilyPond takes in that
> direction. We definitely have competition; Finale 2014 can apparently "do it
> all" and can compose stuff like George Crumb stuff.
>
> Has anyone thought about this? About advanced Contemporary Music? What about
> our (somewhat) competitive brother "Belle, Bonne, Sage"?
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Shane Brandes <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>
>
> IC,
>
> Josh


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