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Re: Automatic beaming in vocal cadenzas


From: David Kastrup
Subject: Re: Automatic beaming in vocal cadenzas
Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2013 13:21:32 +0200
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"Phil Holmes" <address@hidden> writes:

> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "David Kastrup" <address@hidden>
> To: <address@hidden>
> Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 4:49 AM
> Subject: Re: Automatic beaming in vocal cadenzas
>
>
>> Matthew Collett <address@hidden> writes:
>>
>>> On 26/10/2013, at 4:10 pm, Colin Campbell <address@hidden> wrote:
>>>
>>>> We tried using \cadenzaOn to get the unmetered aspect, but the
>>>> fundamental problem is that \cadenzaOn turns off autoBeam, which in
>>>> turn means that manual beaming in a cadenza creates unwanted
>>>> melismata.
>>>
>>> So turn the autobeaming back on.  I often use the combination of
>>> \cadenzaOn \autoBeamOn', for exactly this reason.
>>
>> Huh.  Sounds like LilyPond does something wrong here.  Should \cadenzaOn
>> leave autobeaming alone?  Would this have more effects than different
>> melismata?
>
> I don't think autobeaming in cadenzas makes any sense at all, given
> that they're free time.

No disagreement from myself with that, but you might want to look at
<URL:http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-lilypond/2010-09/msg00455.html>
and surroundings.  In my opinion, that does not make sense since within
a cadenza, you don't even know where the current beats synchronize and
often the given note durations are approximate, a cadenza usually
allowing for heavy rubato.

Of course, that's partly my opinion because of "technicalities"
(issue 3633 does not leave any information required for autobeaming).

-- 
David Kastrup



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