Re: Oboe advise needed - woodwind diagrams

[Wim van Dommelen]

Hi Frauke,

If it is relevant, I can add multiple diagrams, just as I now do for the clarinet and bass-clarinet.....

Regards,

Wim.

On 13 May 2013, at 16:29 , Frauke Jurgensen wrote:

Right, well, the LH F is correct, though its placement looks a little weird. Regarding the universality, the problem is that there are several key systems in general use. North America and the Continent tend to use the conservatoire system, and the UK uses the thumbplate system. Some manufacturers build hybrid oboes that accomodate both systems. That diagram looks a bit like a thumbplate to me, though it does appear to have one (but not both) of the right hand first-finger octave keys, which I think the thumbplate doesn't generally have (I play conservatoire, so don't know the thumbplate configuration very well). I'll try to find some diagrams that show both, for comparison.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 3:16 PM, Wim van Dommelen <address@hidden> wrote:

I didn't attached a diagram, just the .ly file to generate it. Now the result is attached in .png, so you should see that. It shows you two layout, first one is with all keys, the second one with the "F" and "banana" key pressed.

Actually my question is world-wide because it is LilyPond-wide. These diagrams are produced by LilyPond, I'm in the process of re-designing the Clarinet diagrams, making them complete, removing some of the problems. And in that process I also generated all the others and wondered at this.

Regards,

Wim.

<Oboe-f-question.png>

On 13 May 2013, at 15:34 , Frauke Jurgensen wrote:

I don't see an attached diagram? Many oboes do have a LH F, which is a little knobbly one sort of on top of the others. If I could see it, I'll take a look.

Since your email is continental, I assume you're looking for Conservatoire key system. I can help with that.

On Mon, May 13, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Wim van Dommelen <address@hidden> wrote:

Hi,

I am looking at some of the woodwind diagrams, redesigning the clarinet part and if possible trying to judge on correctness of the others.

In the Oboe diagram I see a left-hand key labeled F, but it is placed a little bit strange on top of the others. Comparing with pictures on the Internet doesn't help me that much. As I am not a hoboist, can somebody who is take a look at this. I generated diagrams with (also attached):

\version "2.16.0"

% informational output to the default log-file:
#(print-keys 'oboe)

   \score {
      \relative c' {
            \textLengthOn
            c^\markup {
               \center-column {
                  "Oboe - all keys"
                     \woodwind-diagram   #'oboe
                                                             #'()
                  } }
            s s
            f^\markup {
               \center-column {
                  "Oboe lh f-key"
                     \woodwind-diagram   #'oboe
                                                             #'((cc . ())
                                                                 (lh . (f))
                                                                 (rh . (banana)))
                  } }
         }
   }

Also a right-hand "banana" key is shown. Is that correct? and if so, is that the name of that key?

Any Obo-player who can guide me?

Regards,
Wim.







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