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Re: Tweaking notehead direction in chords
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Thomas Morley |
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Re: Tweaking notehead direction in chords |
Date: |
Sun, 23 Dec 2012 19:33:06 +0100 |
2012/12/23 Paul Morris <address@hidden>:
> On Dec 20, 2012, at 7:51 PM, Thomas Morley <address@hidden> wrote:
>
>> I think there is no way to align moved noteheads left and right from
>> the stem _and_ to keep a correct 'stem-attachment in x-axis-direction
>> in all thinkable cases.
>> The y-value of 'stem-attachment has to be modified in several situations
>> anyway.
>
> Hi Harm,
>
> I had some more time to look at this, and I think I may be catching up with
> you now. :-)
>
> I now see that using (/ stem-x-width 2) nicely handles all four possibilities
> correctly in terms of positioning note heads relative to the stem on the
> X-axis (upwards or downwards stem, moving a note head to the default or to
> the opposite-of-default side of the stem). So this is all that is needed to
> correctly align notes vertically on either side of the stem.
>
> But I also see how this means the stem may not attach properly in some cases.
> The main (or only?) instance of this seems to be when a note head that is at
> the end of a stem has been offset to the non-default side of the stem. It
> overlaps only half of the stem width, and this does not look right. (I can't
> think of another case where this would be a problem.)
>
> It might be possible to handle this case automatically in the code (at least
> for the X-axis of 'stem-attachment), but I'm not sure it would be worth it
> since it can be tweaked manually using your adjustStem function. (But just
> for example...)
>
> if note head is the lowest one on an upwards stem or
> if note head is the highest one on a downwards stem
> and it has been moved to the non-default side of the stem
> then adjust the 'stem-attachment accordingly
>
>
> Also, it seems that changing the 'stem-attachment property moves the stem and
> not the note. This preserves the vertical alignment of the notes which is a
> good thing, but it basically reverses the usual pattern of how note heads
> overlap the stem. (Notes on the non-default side of the stem will now
> overlap the full width of the stem, and notes on the default side will now
> overlap half the width of the stem -- the opposite of the usual pattern.)
> There is no way around this, since offsetting a note at the end of the stem
> means you either get the stem attachment right, or keep the usual pattern of
> how note heads overlap the stem. And clearly it's better to get the stem
> attachment right.
Hi Paul,
that's all true and _much_ better explained than I could have done it.
I agree to all of it.
> So I don't have any further suggestions for the code. I will try to find
> some time to come up with a good concise example for the LSR, and put the
> default notes on a separate staff above the offset notes.
>
> Best,
> -Paul
>
Thanks.
And I promise to approve it asap.
Regards,
Harm
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