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Re: Dynamics clashing with stem of cross-staff knee beam


From: address@hidden
Subject: Re: Dynamics clashing with stem of cross-staff knee beam
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 10:56:33 +0100

Thanks Caio,

I wrote a patch that makes a little bit of headway for this.
It's not as complete as it could be, but once it's part of LilyPond, I'll give your examples a spin (remind me if I forget) and see if they're improved.

Cheers,
MS

On Dec 18, 2011, at 1:24 AM, Caio Barros wrote:

I Finally got time to make the image files of the exemples I gave. there they go.
I think these cover the most situations of dynamics together with cross-staff knee beam.
The webern exemple, the only I didn't talk about, is from the second piece of variations op. 27.

I believe it's clear that the clash should be avoided anyway.

2011/12/11 address@hidden <address@hidden>
Le Dec 10, 2011 à 12:12 AM, Xavier Scheuer a écrit :

> On 9 December 2011 23:40, address@hidden <address@hidden> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for bringing this to my attention.
>> This is one of those situations that falls into the "uncertain
>> desired output" category.
>> Shifting the dynamic to the left or right dissociates it from the
>> note, and whiting it out covers up a good portion of the stem.
>
> Mmh, this is the same "uncertain desired output" that is preventing an
> automated solution in the case of DynamicText colliding with SpanBar?
>
>
>> It'd be not-very-hard to drum up an automated solution, but what
>> we're really missing are examples from the literature.  If you have
>> time to peruse scores from reputable editors and send us examples,
>> we can work from that.
>
> Maybe if there is no "standard best solution", LilyPond could at least
> emit a Warning: collision when it occurs, isn't it?

I submitted a patch that does some collision avoidance in these cases - I'll keep you posted.

Cheers,
MS

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