Re: scaled lyrics

[Jan-Peter Voigt]

Hi Alexander,

pushing this back on the list ...
I downloaded Tribun and can now use 'Tribun ADF Std Cond' to get 
condensed lyrics. But how can I use bold and italic shapes?

... oh, I just answered it myself:

--snip--
\version "2.14.2"

#(define-markup-command (shape layout props shp arg)(string? markup?)
  (let ((p `(((font-name . ,(string-append (chain-assoc-get 'font-name 
props "Tribun ADF Std") " " shp))) . props) ))
       (ly:message "~A" p)
       (interpret-markup layout p arg)))

\markup \column {
  \line { Hallo \override #'(font-series . bold) Welt }
  \override #'(font-name . "Tribun ADF Std Medium")
  \line { Hallo \shape #"Bold Italic" Welt }
  \override #'(font-name . "Tribun ADF Std")
  \line { Hallo \shape #"Bold Italic" Welt }
  \override #'(font-name . "Tribun ADF Std Cond")
  \line { Hallo \shape #"Bold Italic" Welt }
}
--snip--

Well, I defined another markup command - that is not a very nice 
solution. But perhaps someone else knows, how to 'activate' arbitrary 
styles/shape of an installed otf font.

lilypond -dshow-available-fonts blabla 2>&1 | grep Tribun
shows:
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std:style=Bold
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std,Tribun ADF Std Cond:style=Bold Cond,Bold
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std:style=Bold Italic
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std,Tribun ADF Std Med:style=Medium
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std,Tribun ADF Std Med:style=ExtraBold Italic,Bold Italic
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std,Tribun ADF Std Cond:style=Cond,Regular
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std,Tribun ADF Std Med:style=Medium Italic,Italic
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std:style=ExtraBold,Bold
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std,Tribun ADF Std Cond:style=Bold Cond Italic,Bold Italic
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std,Tribun ADF Std Cond:style=Cond Italic,Italic
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std:style=Italic
family Tribun ADF Std
 Tribun ADF Std:style=Regular

So style show available styles, how can I use them without hacking 
font-name?
The \bold command or \override #'(font-series . bold) doesn't work for 
this otf.

Cheers,
Jan-Peter

Am 20.11.2011 18:44, schrieb Alexander Kobel:
> Hallo Jan-Peter,
>
> noch eine kleine Idee in Sachen Fonts: Ich bin heute per Zufall über 
> folgende Seite gestolpert:
>   http://wiki.scribus.net/canvas/Where_can_I_get_good_fonts%3F
> Insbesondere die "Arkandis Digital Foundry" sieht sehr interessant aus 
> - Gillius und Tribun zum Beispiel (in der Kategorie ADF's Fonts) finde 
> ich auf den ersten Blick sehr hübsch gemacht, und beide kommen mit 
> engen Schnitten.
> Zu den CorelDRAW-/Bitstream-Schriften scheint das Gegenargument zu 
> sein, dass sie der damalige Bitstream-Designer zu einem großen Teil 
> schamlos von anderen Schriftdesignern (hauptsächlich aus dem Hause 
> Linotype) abkopiert hat. Allerdings auf einem sehr hohen Niveau, und 
> einige Vorlagen waren auch schon Kopien. Abgesehen von leichten 
> moralischen Bedenken sollten sie sehr gut nutzbar sein - rechtlich ist 
> man mit dem Paket auf jeden Fall auf der sicheren Seite.
>
>
> Gruß
> Alexander
>
>
> On 2011-11-16 09:33, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote:
> > Hi Alexander,
> >
> > no, that doen't sound silly ;-)
> > And it is of course worth, to look for other font options. The CorelDraw
> > option is an interesting one, so I will look for it - thank you for that
> > hint.
> > But still, I will condense some pieces "manually" (or schemally?),
> > because then I can choose the level of "condensity" I need for the fast
> > syllabic parts and leave all other parts uncondensed.
> > My function to scale/condense syllable proportional to its width was an
> > idea I had yesterday, but that will always look ugly, I think. And I
> > have to admit, that its also motivated by my weakness for puzzling.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jan-Peter
> >
> > Am 15.11.2011 19:27, schrieb Alexander Kobel:
> > > On 2011-11-15 10:29, Jan-Peter Voigt wrote:
> > > > Hello list,
> > > >
> > > > when I am typesetting christian/latin or german music, there are often
> > > > passages with short notes and a lot of long syllables. The 
> > > > character 'M'
> > > > is a quite long one and if you have the german word "schlem -- 
> > > > men", it
> > > > also takes a lot of space. [...]
> > > > But I don't like the look of the uneven scaled text. Has anyone an 
> > > > idea
> > > > of a "softer" scaling function? Or has anyone another idea on this
> > > > topic?
> > > > [...]
> > >
> > > Hi Jan-Peter,
> > >
> > > this might sound silly, but why not switch the font? I often write
> > > syllabic German music, too, so I know your problem, and I often just
> > > use a condensed font family.
> > >
> > > E.g., the free DejaVu font family offers condensed serif variants.
> > > If you can, I also highly recommend that you get a cheap old version
> > > of the CorelDRAW suite (v6 or higher, I think, but just search the web
> > > to find out) on eBay or the like.
> > > It comes with a collection of about a thousand font variants,
> > > including ones with proper condensed shapes. A good share of these
> > > fonts are of pretty good quality, though I heard that serious
> > > typographers would beat me up for saying so. They may not have
> > > excellent hinting or headline variants, but I find them very suitable
> > > for some lyrics.
> > > You'll probably get TrueType and Type1 files without amazing features
> > > and huge character set, but it's really okay. Later versions (>= v13
> > > and the Corel X suites, I think) also ship with an OpenType
> > > collection, but I did not get my hands on these so far.
> > >
> > >
> > > Best,
> > > Alexander