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Re: metronome mark position


From: Graham Percival
Subject: Re: metronome mark position
Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 12:31:09 -0700

staff.itely (the file containing metronome mark docs) is still
unfinished.  Please wait a few weeks; if the first public draft
does not contain good docs about this, please speak up again.

Cheers,
- Graham


On Sat, 5 Jul 2008 20:13:28 +0200
"Libero Mureddu" <address@hidden> wrote:

> Hi Neil,
> thanks for your answer,
> 
> I'm just wondering if the manual section about metronome marks should
> be changed in order to inform that ATM one should use a mixture of
> \mark \markup and \tempo, depending on the context: in my memory when
> someone (myself and other people I saw) starts a notation software,
> after few notes and a a dynamic, next thing to add is a tempo mark, to
> complete the typical "Hello, world!" score.
> And for a new user it could take very much to understand that one
> should use \mark \markup (not talking about how to use it), as
> workaround. It is not obvious at all. Not talking about the fact that
> a wrong positioned first tempo mark in a piece creates immediately a
> "strange" feeling to a musician, even if he/she's not aware of the
> "right" rule about  the position of those marks.
> 
> Libero
> 
> On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Neil Puttock <address@hidden>
> wrote:
> > Hi Libero,
> >
> > 2008/7/4 Libero Mureddu <address@hidden>:
> >
> >> I have two questions:
> >>
> >> Is there a way to have the \tempo or a custom \mark \markup that
> >> behaves correctly according to those three different situations?
> >
> > I don't think so; unless you use both as required by each individual
> > situation, you'll have to override the positioning to fix the
> > alignment.
> >
> > Following Reinhold's improvements to the \tempo command (i.e.,
> > allowing text markup), there was a discussion about metronome
> > alignment (or lack of, when next to a time signature). As I
> > understand it from the source, metronome marks are only positioned
> > with reference to note columns; without recoding, there doesn't
> > seem to be any way of making them acknowledge breakable objects
> > like time and key signatures.
> >
> >> In the example, there are two commented lines that should (in my
> >> understanding), move the metronomemark on the left, but I only get
> >> to have it down. Is there a bug, or am I doing something wrong?
> >
> > If you try the same override on a ReheasalMark object, you'll see
> > that it too ignores this; in the case of some outside staff objects
> > which are aligned #UP or #DOWN, the side axis seems to be
> > hard-coded (or is ignored completely: in the case of RehearsalMark,
> > there is no default setting for 'side-axis), though I couldn't say
> > whether this is a bug or not.
> >
> > BTW, if you want the rehearsal mark aligned with the left edge of
> > the time signature, you'll need to override the TimeSignature
> > object's 'break-align-anchor-alignment property:
> >
> > \override Staff.TimeSignature #'break-align-anchor-alignment = #LEFT
> >
> > Regards,
> > Neil
> >
> 
> 
> 
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