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Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters


From: Anh Hai Trinh
Subject: Re: GDP glossary question: complex meters
Date: Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:12:20 -0500
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How can we normalize the terminology? Here are my thoughts on the matter,
trying to distill this into a controlled lexicon --

* polymeter -- the most generic term
    * sequential polymeter -- Ralph's definition
        * regular
        * irregular
    * simultaneous polymeter -- Valentin's definition
        * regular and irregular (theoretically)

And here's what happens to the list of terms above:

* polymetric time signature
Deleted: although it implies sequential polymeter, it has too many possible
interpretations to be useful.

* double time signature
* compound time signature
* additive time signatures
* alternating time signatures

Become "See also _sequential polymeter, regular_"

* mixed meter / mixed time signatures
Becomes "See also "sequential polymeter, irregular_"


I have never heard the term polymeter. It does not show up in Grove Music Online (actually once but refering to poetic meter), not a good sign! And according to Wikipedia, polymeter implies polyrhythm and therefore is equivalent to your "simulatenous polymeter" <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polymeter>. That term should be out!

The equivalent term to your "sequential polymeter" that I've heared and used is "changing meters" or "irregular meter".

* double time sig -- too ambigous whether it's simultaneous or sequential
* compound time sig -- this is a well established term refering to meter such as 6/8, 9/8, 6/4, etc. in contrast to simple meters such as 3/8, 3/4, etc. * additive time sig -- could mean sth like (3 + 3 + 2)/8 or could mean irregular meters a la Messian
* alternating time sig -- a special case of changing/irregular meter

--AT




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